can a swaminarayan devotee please tell me the sugnificance

[Shantanu]

What's your point

I am saying that Vishnu is not the Creator God. Sri Krishna is the Creator God.

 

[Stormcry]

I am saying that Vishnu is not the Creator God. Sri Krishna is the Creator God.

Is this a new theory? And how?

 

[Shantanu]

Is this a new theory? And how?

The evidence that sealed this theory for me came from the use of the Chaldean Hebrew numerological alphabet in which God’s name 'Sri Krishna' acquired the highly spiritual number of 7. The number 7 had great spiritual significance in denoting the presence of God within the universe.

 

[Aupmanyav]

I did a search on 'images' for Swaminarayan, and there are all kinds of clothes in all styles.

Is Swaminarayan (Sahajananda) a Hindu God?

We are talking about Bharatvarsha.

Is what I mentioned not Bharatavarsha?

I do not know who Swaminarayan is, Is he Vishnu of the Vedas?

Yes

Is Sahajanand the Parabrahman that you talk about? And are Rama and Krishna his avataras?

The evidence that sealed this theory for me came from the use of the Chaldean Hebrew numerological alphabet in which God’s name 'Sri Krishna' acquired the highly spiritual number of 7. The number 7 had great spiritual significance in denoting the presence of God within the universe.

Which drugs do you take?

 

[Shantanu]

Which drugs do you take?

How do you know about my mental illness?

 

[Desert Snake]

I don't know; but is there any reason to not be a devotee of Swaminaryan?

 

[Desert Snake]

Namaste


Republic day I beleive is the 26th Jan, celebrating the addoption of the constitution in 1950.
Although I dont know if I would be happy to dress the Deities in flags for what is realy more of a secular occasion ?

Jai Shree Krishna

Asha

I'm a bit confused. Aren't flags secular?
Thanks for your answers guys, I wonder the same things as the OP. Btw I consider myself a de facto devotee of Swminaryan, though not officially.

 

[Shantanu]

I don't know; but is there any reason to not be a devotee of Swaminaryan?

If you believe that Swaminaryan will give you the things that are most important to you in running your life it would be foolish not to be his devotee.

 

[Shantanu]

I'm a bit confused. Aren't flags secular?
Thanks for your answers guys, I wonder the same things as the OP. Btw I consider myself a de facto devotee of Swminaryan, though not officially.

The Indian flags is supposed to represent the things and values that are important to the nation. The green and orange colours mean something and wheel means something. I believe it has spiritual significance but do not know precisely how. We would need to research into its design.

Of course here the symbolism of wrapping the idols with the flag might be trying to convey that Swaminarayan will protect India.

 

[ratikala]

namaskaram Shantanu ji

The Indian flags is supposed to represent the things and values that are important to the nation. The green and orange colours mean something and wheel means something. I believe it has spiritual significance but do not know precisely how. We would need to research into its design.

this is true yes the colours represent something , .and the Wheel , is ..the ' Dharmachakra of Ashoka ' ......now here ....@Poeticus ji ....you will see that there is method to my madness ....

who was Ashoka ?

and what do the twelve spokes x 2 symbolise?

the cycle of birth death and realisation ,...

Of course here the symbolism of wrapping the idols with the flag might be trying to convey that Swaminarayan will protect India.

yes , maybe they were just being patriotic, ..
but sadly I fear that this is Kali yuga .....I think prehaps we need a little more than protection as we are the ones who destroy the planet and constantly fight amongst our selves , ......

 

[ratikala]

namaskaram

And this I quote , ....for sake of confusion

“ Bhagwa or the saffron colour denotes renunciation of disinterestedness. Our leaders must be indifferent to material gains and dedicate them selves to their work. The white in the centre is light, the path of truth to guide our conduct. The green shows our relation to (the) soil, our relation to the plant life here, on which all other life depends. The "Ashoka Chakra" in the centre of the white is the wheel of the law of dharma. Truth or satya, dharma or virtue ought to be the controlling principle of those who work under this flag. .....''

this should apply equaly to political and religious leaders who serve her in their different capacities , ...should it not ?

then there are some other isssues which I felt were worth mentioning ...

it should not be worn in any form below the waist ...
the indian flag should never touch the floor , ...

it should not be manifactured of anything but Indian Khadi (cotton)
not tourist Nylon .

 

[ratikala]

the above were all in the UK , shame on us
but sadly the same cheep nylon flag displayed in Mumbai ?

and why oh why must they give Sri Radhika a hand bag ???

 

[Shantanu]

namaskaram

And this I quote , ....for sake of confusion

“ Bhagwa or the saffron colour denotes renunciation of disinterestedness. Our leaders must be indifferent to material gains and dedicate them selves to their work. The white in the centre is light, the path of truth to guide our conduct. The green shows our relation to (the) soil, our relation to the plant life here, on which all other life depends. The "Ashoka Chakra" in the centre of the white is the wheel of the law of dharma. Truth or satya, dharma or virtue ought to be the controlling principle of those who work under this flag. .....''

this should apply equaly to political and religious leaders who serve her in their different capacities , ...should it not ?

then there are some other isssues which I felt were worth mentioning ...

it should not be worn in any form below the waist ...
the indian flag should never touch the floor , ...

it should not be manifactured of anything but Indian Khadi (cotton)
not tourist Nylon .

What is this Ashoka Chakra law of dharma? I thought Ashoka supported Buddhism? Is the Chakra something to do with Buddhism?

 

[ratikala]

namaskaram shantanu ji

What is this Ashoka Chakra law of dharma? I thought Ashoka supported Buddhism? Is the Chakra something to do with Buddhism?

yes correct the great and highly revered Ashoka converted to Buddhism after seeng regreting the death and carnage he himself had caused in his desire to conquer vast tracts of India , after his conversion he worked towards unity and peace , leaving many edicts behind him marked with the Dharma Chakra , ...thus it is known as Ashoka's Chakra

so now please conscider why it was placed in the center of the indian flag ?
why did they replace Ghandi ji's Chakra with Ashokas Chakra ?

please ask these questions , it is very important for everyone Hindu and Indian to know .

 

[ratikala]

namaskaram deciple ji

I'm a bit confused. Aren't flags secular?

that is what I would have thought too ?

I wonder the same things as the OP. Btw I consider myself a de facto devotee of Swminaryan, though not officially.

I was quite perplexed to see these darshan photographs and am some what concerned about the way that the Deities of Radha Krsna are being treated and was doubly concerned that the correct usage of a national flag is not properly respected even by by own own people ? ...

I would not wish to offend any Swaminarayan devotees especialy those born into the tradition , but as Hindus (if we are to call ourselves Hindus we should Know the symbolism and meaning behind the things we use and do particularly those relating to Deity seva .

 

[Desert Snake]

namaskaram deciple ji



that is what I would have thought too ?




I was quite perplexed to see these darshan photographs and am some what concerned about the way that the Deities of Radha Krsna are being treated and was doubly concerned that the correct usage of a national flag is not properly respected even by by own own people ? ...

I would not wish to offend any Swaminarayan devotees especialy those born into the tradition , but as Hindus (if we are to call ourselves Hindus we should Know the symbolism and meaning behind the things we use and do particularly those relating to Deity seva .

Well, I don't think the flags could be dishonoured by being draped on Deities. /or touching the floor/, The Deities purify the clothing that adorns them. That's just my take on it, as an outsider.

 

[ratikala]

namaskaram deciple ji

We do that in America, for instance. A superhero can wear the American flag, it isn't disrespectful. The character of the person becomes part of the expression of the flag/clothing.

we are not talking about fictional super heros or the land disney and hamburgers , .we , ...well at least I , ...am talking about Bharatvarsha and our precious Gods who are not disney characters dispite some of the ways that they are being treated these days .

 

[ratikala]

The Deities purify the clothing that adorns them. That's just my take on it, as an outsider.

the Deities have the capacity to accept what ever they wish if it is given with pure intention , .however we should not use that as an excuse to do what we like without thoughtfullness . thoughtfulness is the duty of any Pujari .

 

[Aupmanyav]

Using Indian flag in a dishonorable way only shows the cheapness of the people involved. In India, it will be a punishable offense.

I don't know; but is there any reason to not be a devotee of Swaminaryan?

None, but then you should not claim to be a Hindu. Sahajananda was not a Hindu God or Hindu Parabrahman.

Of course here the symbolism of wrapping the idols with the flag might be trying to convey that Swaminarayan will protect India.

Did we ask for it? Thanks, we do not need his help and can do the needful on our own.

 

[Shantanu]

Did we ask for it? Thanks, we do not need his help and can do the needful on our own.

Where are we going to get the wisdom to do the needful on our own Aup?