footprints
Well-Known Member
You didn't understand the probabilty statements? It was all clearly laid out, I see no need to repeat them, just look at the previous answer.
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Can An Atheist Believe in God?
- Thread starter Kilgore Trout
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You didn't understand the probabilty statements? It was all clearly laid out, I see no need to repeat them, just look at the previous answer.
Peacewise
Active Member
No, the definition of the word atheist is someone who denies the existence of God or Gods.
atheist
// (say 'aytheeuhst)
noun someone who denies or disbelieves the existence of God (or gods).
There is no other belief that disqualifies a person from being an atheist.
freeman2008
New Member
If you believe that God exists, then you are not an atheist. But even the demons know that he exists.
I saw an atheist once at the very moment he started believing in a god. He instantly vanished in a puff of logic. But in that very same instant, a deist popped into existence to replace him. He appeared physically identical & had the same memories, but he now had a different belief & label. It would appear that mass & energy are conserved upon religious conversion.
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*raises hand*
Rainbow Mage
Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
I think an Atheist could believe in a god if it was an entirely impersonal one. After all, Einstein believed in an impersonal god as a Pantheist, and I've heard people say he was also an Atheist.
logician
Well-Known Member
whereismynotecard
Treasure Hunter
No. You cannot believe in god and be an atheist.
And there isn't any other belief that atheists are not allowed to have.
Just that there's no god.
And there isn't any other belief that atheists are not allowed to have.
Just that there's no god.
Satans_Serrated_Edge
Deicidal
Theism is defined as a belief in god or gods.
Atheism is the lack of that, by definition.
It is logically impossible for something to be A and not A simultaneously.
Is this seriously under discussion?
Atheism is the lack of that, by definition.
It is logically impossible for something to be A and not A simultaneously.
Is this seriously under discussion?
Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
Wouln't that be considered an agnostic/atheist...?
I've seen it some peoples titles around here.
footprints
Well-Known Member
Is this seriously under discussion?... Only by people who are interested and serious, others of course will fall back on whatever their belief patterns tell them, and believe they have the answer already.
All belief patterns held by the human brain, are held in place by faith, to a greater or lesser degree. The sole reason we have different levels of atheism ranging from the very weak, to the extremist irrationalist. Dawkins for one gives dieties a probability, a very insignificant one, but a probability never the less. So are you now saying Dawkins cannot be an atheist, because of your A and A scenario?
How does this work, exactly? How do you define "atheist" (and "God", for that matter)?
Satans_Serrated_Edge
Deicidal
No.footprints said:
Please stop responding to my posts in general. I don't have time to waste with non-discussion.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
(Psst - the ignore feature works wonders with noise polluters.)
I don't think they make sense, no. Atheism isn't about how likely a person thinks God is; it's about whether a person believes in God or not. It's an either-or proposition.
However, if you disagree, perhaps you could tell us what, besides non-belief in gods, can make a person an atheist.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
This thread is far more fascinating than I could have imagined. I was actually going somewhere with it originally, but seeing what semantical and mental knots people will tie themselves into trying to argue that an atheist can believe in god is pure entertainment.
I.S.L.A.M617
Illuminatus
Lol it really is amazing. You'd think the definition of the word "atheitst" itself would be enough to call this one a clear NO.
Satans_Serrated_Edge
Deicidal
Wow, thanks. I was unaware this site had that feature, buried back there in the user cp. I know now!
No more prattle about 'faith of belief' and whatnot for me! Frubals!
footprints
Well-Known Member
Thanks, so I think that you mean, you don't want to waste any time over anything which you don't personally believe, and that you are quite happy with a subjective opinion.