linwood
Well-Known Member
Sure, but I would fail to see the point of it.
Atheists don`t see the point of it when a theist prays.
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Can an Atheist Pray?
- Thread starter mhiggs
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Atheists don`t see the point of it when a theist prays.
I tried talking to myself, but just couldn't get a civil conversation going....too many ad hominems & predictable responses.
Praying looks to be pretty one sided....at least for the sane believers I know.
Green Kepi
Active Member
Maybe it would work if you were a believer and a Child of God...without that its sort of like praying for rain and not having your umbrella with you....
Green Kepi
Active Member
Dang! I like you...based on that response. I use to believe the same way. I had to prove to 'myself' that all this Christian "stuff" was real...when I did - everything changed for me....
Well it didn't work for me when I was sadly a 'born again!':no:
Green Kepi
Active Member
Please don't get mad at me...but...how or what did you do to be 'born again'?
Asked old JC to come into my heart when I was 11!
Green Kepi
Active Member
His Plan of Salvation is a little more detailed than that...that ol stand-by "just ask Him into your heart" is all you have to do...I cannot find taught in the Bible. I find certain steps, if done in all sincerity. Hear, believe, repent, confess (Jesus as God's Son), immersion in water, and then continue to live faithfully for Him....
Now...granted...there are many who claim to be Christians will jump all over me about the immersion part...but again, remember I said...this is what I believe....take care!
I did the immersion part too, it was really hilarious. One elderly lady was being dunked with a bunch of us teenagers. Poor old soul didn't have anything on under her baptismal robe, which clung to her like a wet T shirt leaving nothing to the imagination. It was very hard to keep our giggles under control!
By the time I married at 19, and left home to live in the UK, my doubts about the faith of my childhood were coming thick and fast. My husband also a 'born again' was having doubts too. Whilst I am still in the don't know camp and an agnostic, he is a convinced atheist, in spite of dicing with death in 2006. As parents we felt matters of faith, or lack of them, should never be forced on the young, so we allowed our kids to decide for themselves without any pressure from us. Our eldest girl is now an Anglican Priest, but not a fundie, thank goodness. We never discuss religion at home.
Green Kepi
Active Member
Funny...poor old lady.
Doubts are natural. Thomas the Disciple had them and the Lord didn't jump all over him because he did so. I often do too...some of the stuff in the Scriptures define rational thought. Isaiah 55:8 has God telling us "My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways"...so...why not discuss this thought at home?
Why on earth would I wish to discuss it at home? I save religious chat for forums thanks. My elderly mother gives me earache about my 'unsaved' status on the phone, which is firmly put down on her when she starts that nonsense.
Justin Thyme
Child of God
Possibly because your mother may need the conversation to grow in her own spiritual life. Ask her questions, probe back in as loving of a way as you can. The conversation may lead to a much better relationship between the two of you and an end to her concern about your "unsaved" status.
You are joking! I don't want that sort of relationship with my mother that is for sure!
I should explain that my mother always thinks she is right about everything, however wrong she is, and is driving us all crazy. I am fortunate there is a stretch of water and a good few hundred miles between us so I don't see her more than once a year. I don't have a particular liking for her let alone love, and my siblings feel the same, sad but true.
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Justin Thyme
Child of God
You are joking! I don't want that sort of relationship with my mother that is for sure!
I'm sorry to hear that. I just know that having that conversation with some family members has lead to both of us having a better understanding of each other and lead to the end of some concerns my stepmother had due to my more liberal Christian beliefs. I think it also opened her eyes to a better understanding of her faith.
However, while my stepmother and I have a somewhat tenuous relationship I do get along well enough with her. I can understand you wanting to remain distant.
I know where my mother is coming from unfortunately! I was told at six years old that if Jesus came back that night I would be left behind!
I still get that from time to time, and I usually say under my breath, "What a relief!"
i know it's one of the most frequently used arguments out there, but for me it never gets old. the classic god's-power-is-only-visible-to-those-who-have-already-accepted-him-as-true, number.
i have an invisible dragon living in my garage. it will give you anything you want, provided you give up all doubts that it exists.
(and some of us aren't afraid of rain)
Green Kepi
Active Member
Why would God answer the prayers of those not His children...? For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous, and His ears are open to their prayers 1 Peter 3:12