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Can anyone come up with a good reason why Herman Cain would not be a great president in 2012?

Honibaz

Honibaz

New Member
Reverend Rick said:
If the TEA party did endorse Herman, it would put an end to all the false accusations of the party being racist.
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Uhh no...think again, Reverand. Did the Tea Party's endorsement of Col. Allen West or Tim Scott stop the false allegations? Frankly, all I've seen since Obama became president are a buncha wankers who hide behind veiled insinuations that disagreement with his policies = racism.

Janeane Garofalo anyone?!!
 
Rakhel

Rakhel

Well-Known Member
Beyond the fact that he is saying nothing any other politician is saying?
He has less experience than Obama did when he entered office,
and
He is so Pro-Life it's ridiculous.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
rakhel said:
Beyond the fact that he is saying nothing any other politician is saying?
He has less experience than Obama did when he entered office....
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Less political experience.
Vastly more business & executive experience.
Which is more important?
I'd say the latter.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
He's anti-Muslim (and is paranoid about all Muslims wanting Sharia law in America), anti-welfare, pro-business, pro-Federal Reserve, anti-Planned Parenthood, anti-abortion, pro-oil, anti-health care reform, anti-gay, and wants to defend Israel while bossing Iran around. At least he wants to give illegal immigrants a chance at citizen ship instead of herding them up and sending them back.
So after considering what I looked up on him, he is a social, fiscal, and possibly neo-Conservative.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
He is so Pro-Life it's ridiculous.
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I wish people would wake up and realize that not only should it be the woman's right to choose (especially in cases of rape when she had absolutely no choice to even become pregnant), that our planet barely has the resources to support our population as it is. Adding billions more is something that our planet just cannot handle.
And of course wanting to abolish abortions goes against there precious free-market banner and less regulation/government involvement. But then again it seems the Conservative/Republicans have no problem condemning government regulation where they don't want it, but have absolutely no problem using it to get what they want.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Shadow Wolf said:
I wish people would wake up and realize that not only should it be the woman's right to choose (especially in cases of rape when she had absolutely no choice to even become pregnant), that our planet barely has the resources to support our population as it is. Adding billions more is something that our planet just cannot handle.
And of course wanting to abolish abortions goes against there precious free-market banner and less regulation/government involvement. But then again it seems the Conservative/Republicans have no problem condemning government regulation where they don't want it, but have absolutely no problem using it to get what they want.
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Tis not so simple. Even people who want less regulation still want some regulation. He wants less for economics & more for social.
I want much less overall, but even I would increase it in some areas, eg, environmental, firearms ownership, & civil servant behavior.
Cain ain't my guy cuz of his social & foreign policy views, but I don't find him inconsistent with his conservative (or perhaps neo-con) label.
 
Rakhel

Rakhel

Well-Known Member
Revoltingest said:
Less political experience.
Vastly more business & executive experience.
Which is more important?
I'd say the latter.
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Well ****. For that matter, if that's what is important to you, you might as well support Trump for President.

CEO of Godfather's Pizza or CEO of half of New York businesses?
HMMMMMM
 
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SargonTheElder

Seeker Of Truth
I can give you two good reasons not to like him 4 Pres:
He's an ex Kansas City Federal Reserve Chief and a long term member of The Council on Foreign Relations. He's an insider of the whole banking establishment that would just continue the whole dysfunctional cycle of bailouts/Quantitative Easing nonsense. The whole Pizza CEO business is just a sideshow. Bad news, bad news. :(
 
Crystallas

Crystallas

Active Member
Cain is in my top 3. Some people like that he's an outsider, and usually I would agree, but not when we are in the middle of a double-dip.

I just want these Corporatists hiding on both sides of the aisle out of Washington.
 
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CatholicCrusader

Member
.lava said:
IMO what America needs is not a better president. i think she needs a revolution
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Our government is not the problem. Its the people running it who are the problem. Our Constitution was a model for the world. Throwing out the baby with the bathwater is not too smart. Our revolutions occur at the ballot box. We don't need tanks in the street like in Egypt.




 
Darkness

Darkness

Psychoanalyst/Marxist
Revoltingest said:
We each have our flavor of insanity which we prefer.
Some worship Paul Krugman, who pushes the insanity that we must print even more fiat currency & borrow even more trillions
for the crazy subsidies & waste of economic stimulus. He doesn't worry if it doesn't work....he has the faith. But he won't
have to personally pay back the massive debt either. I prefer Cain's insanity to Krugman's, Obama's, Pelosi's, Bush's, Frank's, etc.
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More senseless and unfounded criticism against Paul Krugman. :rolleyes:
 
Darkness

Darkness

Psychoanalyst/Marxist
I will bite. I do not like Herman Cain because:


  • Cain favours eliminating the estate tax. Those with the broadest shoulders should carry the heaviest burden. It's time the rich stop whining like little ******* and pay their fair share.

  • He supports a fairtax, which is like a really large sales tax. It is terribly regressive however. Since, he wants to eliminate capital gains tax. Thus, since the majority of the lower classes spend their income on consumption, the vast portion of their income will be taxed, whereas a much smaller portion of the wealthy's income will be taxed. I swear, the more I examine the Republican party, the more I realise how right Karl Marx was right.

  • Cain believes that a gold standard is reasonable. The gold standard is to economics, what creationism is to biology. We might as well go back to a barter economy.

  • He publically declared that he would not appoint a Muslim to his cabinet, saying that it threatens turning the U.S. into a Sharia-law theocracy. I do not favour intolerance.

  • Cain is staunchly pro-life. I am all for limiting abortion to a certain number of weeks, but he believes that life begins at contraception. It is absurd to value you the existence of a collection of a few cells over that of a living breathing girl.

  • He supports more free-market competition in health care, when decades of health care economics have proven the efficiency of public health insurance.

  • Cain opposes same-sex marriage. If he really believed in traditional conservative values, he would support same-sex marriage, because it fosters family values and creates more powerful social bonds.

I literally just went down the list on Wikipedia.
 
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