Can anyone tell me who Jesus really was?

[kaknelson]

Yeah we don't know who jesus was, all we know is the lies and fantastical tales about him by men. jesus was a religous guru, there were thousands of religous teachers back in the ancient world both pagan and jew. Then later people twisted and combined Greek philosophy and jewish scriptures to make Jesus God.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

How can you meet Jesus if he is merely soul? Unless he is physical, we cannot see him or hear him, etc. He cannot be affected by light or create sound waves etc.

Just like saying "I met your mind."

 

[the-jesusist]

The only honest answer anyone can give to the specific question you asked is "NO". Anything else would be speculation, imagination, invention or belief.

 

[Katzpur]

Yeah we don't know who jesus was, all we know is the lies and fantastical tales about him by men. jesus was a religous guru, there were thousands of religous teachers back in the ancient world both pagan and jew. Then later people twisted and combined Greek philosophy and jewish scriptures to make Jesus God.

How do you know that? Can you prove any of what you said?

 

[javajo]

To be honest, I don't think there was an actual historical Jesus.

The less you post, the less your ignorance will show.

. jesus was a religous guru, there were thousands of religous teachers back in the ancient world both pagan and jew.

I like what Gamaliel said on that:

34Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space; 35And said unto them, Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what ye intend to do as touching these men.
36For before these days rose up Theudas, boasting himself to be somebody; to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all, as many as obeyed him, were scattered, and brought to nought.
37After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed.
38And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought:
39But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God. Acts 5


Apparently it was of God for there are millions coming to Christ today all over the world.

 

[Villager]

down in verse 31 it says "and the things I was fond of were with the sons of men"
If this is really only personified wisdom speaking, how is it that it says it is fond of the sons of men? What do you think this means?

If an abstract idea is personified, it can do anything its author can do.

 

[Pegg]

If an abstract idea is personified, it can do anything its author can do.

death is personified in the bible too... it is said to rule as a king over mankind, and it is also said to be put to death

Does that mean God not only rules as a king but can also be put to death?

 

[Villager]

death is personified in the bible too... it is said to rule as a king over mankind, and it is also said to be put to death

Does that mean God not only rules as a king but can also be put to death?

Indeed it does. The god of this world.

 

[tomteapack]

Colossians 1:15-20 (NLT)

15Christ is the visible image of the invisible God.
He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation,[a]
16 for through him God created everything
in the heavenly realms and on earth.
He made the things we can see
and the things we can’t see—
such as thrones, kingdoms, rulers, and authorities in the unseen world.
Everything was created through him and for him.
17 He existed before anything else,
and he holds all creation together.
18 Christ is also the head of the church,
which is his body.
He is the beginning,
supreme over all who rise from the dead.
So he is first in everything.
19 For God in all his fullness
was pleased to live in Christ,
20 and through him God reconciled
everything to himself.
He made peace with everything in heaven and on earth
by means of Christ’s blood on the cross.

Since there is no real and valid evidence to support the existence of the Biblical Jesus, then, no one can tell you what he was or if he even existed.
It is amazing that we have REAL evidence that Pontius Pilate existed, but none that the biblical Jesus did. That does not mean he did not exist, but, it does give reason for thought.

 

[Shermana]

Indeed it does. The god of this world.

2 Corinthians 4:4, Satan is the "god of this age", the word "world" is inaccurate.

 

[JacobEzra.]

If you want the truth about who Jesus really is, go to the Bible and not the opinions of fallible men and women.

haha technically, the whole scripture was written by fallible men and women

 

[Pegg]

down in verse 31 it says "and the things I was fond of were with the sons of men"
If this is really only personified wisdom speaking, how is it that it says it is fond of the sons of men? What do you think this means?

just to add:
It doesnt mean that wisdom has attached itself to mankind....we are not wise

Jesus is wisdom. Jesus is the Word/logos. Gods wisdom is exemplified and personified in Jesus, the life of his first creation

 

[Villager]

2 Corinthians 4:4, Satan is the "god of this age", the word "world" is inaccurate.

How do you know that I was quoting?

 

[Straw Dog]

Can anyone tell me who Jesus really was?

Nope.

 

[9Westy9]

Nope.

Objection. Jesus can

 

[Desert Snake]

Really? Even the mainstream churches disagree about that.