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Can Muslims take women as slaves and then rape them?

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
What do you see in any "inspired" religion that
is socially revolutionary, an actual advance in
enlightened consciousness over what already
existed?

"I have a Divine Idea; lets to
"Love they enemy" is not it.

I see that it was inspired and engineered by a human to suit their needs,you can steal,kill ,take slaves have a few wives,love thy enemy was never on the menu.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Lionheart is baiting you. The British and the Vikings were also slavers... and Australia had some weird slavery laws..

That's true,Vikings Anglo Saxons celts all took slaves,however none of these had a so called prophet of a supposed god that we are told is peace and love.
 

Wasp

Active Member
No,I'm referring to any religion that preaches love and piece yet takes slaves through war and capture.
It isn't the religion that takes captives but the people. How can it be so difficult to comprehend that it was like that back then everywhere and just continue to more important topics? What are you looking for? Validation of your disgust to religion or just Islam? Based on that there were slaves? I mean the people who didn't follow any religion back then - what do you think they were, saints?

Just like nowadays. Atheists aren't the better than the religious. Yet some atheists claim the faults in the religious people wouldn't exist without the religion.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
It isn't the religion that takes captives but the people. How can it be so difficult to comprehend that it was like that back then everywhere and just continue to more important topics? What are you looking for? Validation of your disgust to religion or just Islam? Based on that there were slaves? I mean the people who didn't follow any religion back then - what do you think they were, saints?

Just like nowadays. Atheists aren't the better than the religious. Yet some atheists claim the faults in the religious people wouldn't exist without the religion.

Nobody is making the claims that you so denounce.

We are merely showing that these "god-inspired"
religions say nothing about how slavery is not nice,
quite the opposite.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Islam doesn't exactly preach love and peace - that's Christianity. But love and peace - when you follow Islam - will come to you.

Yes, I suppose the boys of 911 are at peace now;
Unless they were wrong about their religion, and are
now getting toasted by satan.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
It isn't the religion that takes captives but the people. How can it be so difficult to comprehend that it was like that back then everywhere and just continue to more important topics? What are you looking for? Validation of your disgust to religion or just Islam? Based on that there were slaves? I mean the people who didn't follow any religion back then - what do you think they were, saints?

Just like nowadays. Atheists aren't the better than the religious. Yet some atheists claim the faults in the religious people wouldn't exist without the religion.

I agree it was like that back then but one would expect a divine example of "you cannot take slaves",obviously the ahbramic religions didn't do that,ancient egyptians Romans Greeks Vikings Celts Anglo Saxons etc didn't justify it via religion.

In my countrys history there been religious wars persecution torture,burning at the stake,you name it we've had the downside of religion and it was all because of religion,the whole of Europe suffered at some point and if anyone criticised one bit of it they would suffer too.
 

Wasp

Active Member
I agree it was like that back then but one would expect a divine example of "you cannot take slaves",obviously the ahbramic religions didn't do that,ancient egyptians Romans Greeks Vikings Celts Anglo Saxons etc didn't justify it via religion.

In my countrys history there been religious wars persecution torture,burning at the stake,you name it we've had the downside of religion and it was all because of religion,the whole of Europe suffered at some point and if anyone criticised one bit of it they would suffer too.
You think he set rules to liberating slaves little by little but not prohibiting and then left it to chance? Allah is all knowing. What the world has come to He knew it would come to it all along.

And why do you suppose He was "supposed to" remove this evil - what about all the other evil? It all basically goes back to why did He allow man to do evil. And Islam answers that.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
You think he set rules to liberating slaves little by little but not prohibiting and then left it to chance? Allah is all knowing. What the world has come to He knew it would come to it all along.

And why do you suppose He was "supposed to" remove this evil - what about all the other evil? It all basically goes back to why did He allow man to do evil. And Islam answers that.

That's your belief and of course you are entitled to it,neither Christianity or Islam have been so benevolent to people like me.

If your god was truly all knowing then it was already apparent that nothing's changed,apart from technology nothing has really moved on much,not globally anyway.
 

Wasp

Active Member
That's your belief and of course you are entitled to it,neither Christianity or Islam have been so benevolent to people like me.

If your god was truly all knowing then it was already apparent that nothing's changed,apart from technology nothing has really moved on much,not globally anyway.
A lot of things have changed. But that's not the objective. The here after is.
 
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