Can non-conscious forces create conscious beings?

[nash8]

The particles? What are the "particles" of natural selection, genetic drift, gene flow, and random mutation that you're referring to? Never heard of such things.

From my understanding, natural selection is simply the process of eliminating, not evolution itself. Did humans naturally select from apes? The same goes for gene flow. Gene flow and natural selection are due to random mutations that benefit the survival of the species, which make it more likely that they will be passed on since the particular members of the species without them will be killed. Gene flow is the same thing. It's just a measure of the frequency that a certain gene variant appears in samples.

All of these are dependent on random mutations. And random mutations can't be caused by outside influences can they?
Evolution 101: The Causes of Mutations

And what causes dna to not copy copy accurately? And what causes some members of the species to gain a particular gene, and some not to?

Evolutrons. Duh.

Are those kind of like the particles responsible for quantum gravity.

Chemistry, basically.

Chemistry is nothing more than an interaction of subatomic particles. Photons collide with molecules and/or single elements which send an electron out of the molecules and/or elements orbital and shoot off another photon as well. The only question you have to ask yourself is whether outside forces, aka photons from outside of the body have any affect on human biological process.
They do: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_D#Synthesis_in_the_skin

The only question is whether or not they affect other biological processes. I personally adhere to the theory of biophotonic cellular communication. Although this may be considered by some as "fringe", which it is. I think that is due to the relative "newness" of this particular field. How long have we been able to study photons accurately? Then think how long have we been able to study them accurately within a live human body? If biophotonic cellular communication is shown to exist, we then have to find out how specific frequencies and amplitudes affect different cells, then we have to find out how these different frequencies and amplitudes change the frequency and amplitude of the biophoton being emitted by the cell being affected.

Go ahead call unfalsifiable claim on me, I won't argue lol. That doesn't change the fact that my argument is scientifically, theoretically plausible.

I think the existence of the material aspects of conciousness (eg brain cells & electrical impulses) can be explained by evolution and chemical reactions.

I agree, but what explains why they evolved that way? And why do specific chemical reactions occur in our brain but not monkeys?

 

[Skwim]

From my understanding, natural selection is simply the process of eliminating, not evolution itself.

Natural Selection

Did humans naturally select from apes?

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The same goes for gene flow.

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Gene flow and natural selection are [NOT] due to random mutations that benefit the survival of the species, which make it more likely that they will be passed on since the particular members of the species without them will be killed.

Gene flow is the same thing. It's just a measure of the frequency that a certain gene variant appears in samples.

Gene Flow

All of these are dependent on random mutations.

Forces of Evolution

And random mutations can't be caused by outside influences can they?
Evolution 101: The Causes of Mutations

They can.

And what causes dna to not copy copy accurately? And what causes some members of the species to gain a particular gene, and some not to?

I've given you enough of a leg-up on the subject. These I'll leave to you to ferret out.

 

[nash8]

I don't even know how to answer your post, I feel like I'm reading one of Legion's posts, except it's more jumbled if that's even possible lol. All that really matters is that you agree with me that evolution, or atleast a part of evolution according to you, can be influenced by outside forces, which is the original argument that I was making.

 

[Skwim]

I don't even know how to answer your post, I feel like I'm reading one of Legion's posts, except it's more jumbled if that's even possible lol.

I hope you recognized that my underlined responses, Natural Selection and such, are links to an answer.

All that really matters is that you agree with me that evolution, or atleast a part of evolution according to you, can be influenced by outside forces, which is the original argument that I was making.

And I do. Your link, Evolution 101: The Causes of Mutations, is a nice one.

 

[nash8]

Yeah I clicked those, but they basically just reinforced what I was already thinking.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

I've been waiting to find out which of those negative terms above are applicable to, for example, Dr. Ian Stevenson. (something more than cherry-picking negatives from his professional enemies).

And you'll continue to wait as you are blind and deaf to any information which challenges your irrational positions.

You wouldn't want us to write you off as a 'hardcore skeptic' and a 'nutjob' (to use your language).

Actually, I don't care at all how you write me or read me. Anybody who would call me as a nutjob has their own issues to deal with, and I am a skeptic, so don't mind being called one.

 

[George-ananda]

And you'll continue to wait as you are blind and deaf to any information which challenges your irrational positions.

How can I be called blind and deaf to challenges when there aren't any (i.e. Kilgore Trout on Dr. Ian Stevenson). And when there are, I always address them.

Actually, I don't care at all how you write me or read me. Anybody who would call me as a nutjob has their own issues to deal with, and I am a skeptic, so don't mind being called one.

I said you wouldn't want to be called a nutjob as you said my sources were. Even the ones you know nothing of consequence about.