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Can religion reject this science ?

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Contain yourself !

I responded directly to your post. But of course you expect me to fall over and worship your unsubstantiated ramblings over that of nasa on a subject such as space?

Not only did you cherry pick one sentence, you had to reword that to massage your ego.

And you wonder at the face palm?
 

james blunt

Well-Known Member
I responded directly to your post. But of course you expect me to fall over and worship your unsubstantiated ramblings over that of nasa on a subject such as space?

Not only did you cherry pick one sentence, you had to reword that to massage your ego.

And you wonder at the face palm?

I don't ask anyone to worship my ramblings ! I ask you to consider yourselves the objective facts and correct semantics that I am and have providing .

I also ask you to discuss my notions in an objective manner and question the notions involved .

Please start here :

1) Space cannot be created or destroyed

Do you not think that is self evidently true ?

Is there any evidence to the contrary ?
 

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
Our devised measurement and coordinate system that was devised by Minowski and Einstein in reality . It is clever ....

This is just too silly. OK - go and devise a coordinate system that only needs two independent distances (or angles) to define a point in space. I'll not hold my breath.

Minkowski space is a combination of three dimensional Euclidean space and time - flat space-time. I thought you didn't like space-time?
 

james blunt

Well-Known Member
This is just too silly. OK - go and devise a coordinate system that only needs two independent distances (or angles) to define a point in space. I'll not hold my breath.

Minkowski space is a combination of three dimensional Euclidean space and time - flat space-time. I thought you didn't like space-time?
Space time is an overlay of absolute space ! I never said I don't like space-time, you just don't quite have the correct semantics .
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I don't ask anyone to worship my ramblings ! I ask you to consider yourselves the objective facts and correct semantics that I am and have providing .

I also ask you to discuss my notions in an objective manner and question the notions involved .

Please start here :

1) Space cannot be created or destroyed

Do you not think that is self evidently true ?

Is there any evidence to the contrary ?

Yes considered the facts which is why I, and everyone else knows you are wrong

Done the discussion bit too, you ignore facts thay ate inconvenient to you

Dont start over again hoping for a different answer, just prove nasa wrong and win, if you cant do that then there is no point
 

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
Space time is an overlay of absolute space !

More word salad. I see you didn't attempt a coordinate system with less than three numbers. An alternative way to see that space objectively three dimensional is to take some straight rods and see how many you can assemble so that they are all at right-angles to each other.
 

james blunt

Well-Known Member
I've decided , some of you are insanely delusional and to deny the obvious is absurd . I'm really starting to think that most people have some sort of mental block imposed on them as they are not very rational with their thinking at all .
I also think some might be being intentionally obtuse though !
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I've decided , some of you are insanely delusional and to deny the obvious is absurd . I'm really starting to think that most people have some sort of mental block imposed on them as they are not very rational with their thinking at all .
I also think some might be being intentionally obtuse though !


Projection to the nth degree
 

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
There's no projection , denying the self evidently true is kinda absurd !

Perhaps you should stop denying that space has physical properties, then. Did you go see how many straight rods you could place at right-angle to each other? If that isn't a physical property of space, what is it?
 

james blunt

Well-Known Member
Perhaps you should stop denying that space has physical properties,

Space has no physical properties , what you are talking about is called physical properties but it is not physical properties . As a measure yes , as physicality no .

Postulate 7 says

7) Space has no physicality

You've got me arguing about something I have not said in my postulates . Do you deny 7?
 

james blunt

Well-Known Member
So what are dimensionality and geometry properties of?

The brain ! They are not properties of space they are our relative measurements of space .







A measure is, by definition, a measurement of something.

Of course , we do and can measure space but that is still not a property of space . Well not how I see it , I see a property is something that belongs to something . I.e an electron is a property of an atom .

Semantics can confuse us all , that is why sometimes people fail to understand each other . However my postulates are really simple .

Are you ready to discuss some science yet ?

How about spatial points are fixed and immovable ! Can you in anyway disagree with that ?

I'm not talking about the fields that occupy space that curve etc relative to space .
 

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
The brain ! They are not properties of space they are our relative measurements of space .

Don't be ridiculous. It is objectively true that you can only arrange three straight rods at right-angles to each other in space. That is not something that is in your mind - it's a property of space.

I.e an electron is a property of an atom .

No it isn't - an electron is a part or component of an atom. A property is characteristic of things, like electric charge, energy, or spin.

Semantics can confuse us all

You more than most, it would seem.

However my postulates are really simple .

And wrong.
 

james blunt

Well-Known Member
And wrong.

It's wrong that my postulates are really simple ? Huh ? They are very simple , which one don't you understand ?

Which one are you in denial about ?

Which one can you show evidence to the contrary ? I'll even accept something logical !

14 pages now and still no provided evidence to the contrary of the postulates !
 
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