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Can someone explain the Trinity please...

moorea944

moorea944

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cataway said:
yeah it does .
19 For there is an eventuality as respects the sons of mankind and an eventuality as respects the beast, and they have the same eventuality. As the one dies, so the other dies; and they all have but one spirit, so that there is no superiority of the man over the beast, for everything is vanity.

you may ask your self what spirit are you referring to
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Spirit in that verse is referring to "breath". They have one breath. Everyone dies.
 
cataway

cataway

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angles sent by God to go and accomplish something, perhaps helping some one through a trial or to lead or even cure someone . are they perhaps holy spirit sent ? would that not make holy spirit ,plural ?
 
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Desert Snake

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cataway said:
angles sent by God to go and accomplish something, perhaps helping some one through a trial or to lead or even cure someone . are they perhaps holy spirit sent ? would that not make holy spirit ,plural ?
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Angels are like separate beings. In Judaism ,they don't have freewill, but some people think they have freewill.
 
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Desert Snake

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Yes said:
You are afraid to say there are three.

There are three, and the three are One and the same.

Do you believe the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God and is therefore the Father God?

Do you believe the scriptures that say Jesus is the Spirit?
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These questions are just nonsense. Once you say 'Godhead', there isn't a 'three' paradigm.
 
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Yes

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
moorea944 said:
How do you figure that? Wasnt Jesus conceived by the Holy Spirit? Wasnt the Holy Spirit here with God before Jesus was born?
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God made Himself a body.
The Bible says there is One Spirit.

Ephesians 4:4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called;

Ephesians 2:18
For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.
 
Yes

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
cataway said:
yeah it does .
19 For there is an eventuality as respects the sons of mankind and an eventuality as respects the beast, and they have the same eventuality. As the one dies, so the other dies; and they all have but one spirit, so that there is no superiority of the man over the beast, for everything is vanity.

you may ask your self what spirit are you referring to
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The Spirit of God, the Spirit of Christ, The Spirit of His Son,and the Holy Spirit are all the same Spirit.
 
moorea944

moorea944

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Yes said:
God made Himself a body.
The Bible says there is One Spirit.

Ephesians 4:4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called;

Ephesians 2:18
For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.
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[God made Himself a body]
No he didnt.

[Bible says that there is One Spirit]
Yes, God's Spirit.But.... what is the context of the chapter? Is it "breath" or God's spirit?

Eph 4 There is one body and one breath. It's translated "spirit".
 
Yes

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
moorea944 said:
Two. God and Jesus. The Spirit of God, Holy Spirit, God's Spirit is part of God, it is not a separate deity or person.
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You know there are three.

However, the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ.

There are three, and the three are One and the same.
 
Yes

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
moorea944 said:
[God made Himself a body]
No he didnt.
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God made Himself a body.

John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
moorea944 said:
[Bible says that there is One Spirit]
Yes, God's Spirit.But.... what is the context of the chapter? Is it "breath" or God's spirit?

Eph 4 There is one body and one breath. It's translated "spirit".
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Where does the scripture say breath?
 
moorea944

moorea944

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Yes said:
God made Himself a body.

John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

Where does the scripture say breath?
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You have to remember something. We are reading Enlish bibles that have been translated from Hebrew and Greek. The Greek word for "spirit" in that verse is "breath", which makes more sense when you really think about it.
 
moorea944

moorea944

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Yes said:
God made Himself a body.

John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

Where does the scripture say breath?
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[God made Himself a body]
I can look at that one of two ways. God making a body, like Adam. Or "changing" Himself into a body. The bible doesnt say that. Jesus is God's plans made flesh. God's logos, words, plans, thoughts made flesh. Jesus is now born in verse 14. He has now come into existence. Is Jesus very God as some people call it? No, of course not. Did God split in two or duplicate Himself? No. Scripture tells us that God had a son. Why is that so hard to understand?
 
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