Ho hum.....Trump is a racist, Hillary is a sexist.
They both have faults, so to merely list them (even if accurate) for one candidate
without comparing them to the other is to create a personal echo chamber.
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Can Trump be stopped?
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They both have faults, so to merely list them (even if accurate) for one candidate
without comparing them to the other is to create a personal echo chamber.
To be a feminist (so she claims) does not mean she isn't sexist.
Hey, if you don't quote or tag me, I might not see your post.
Or is that your sly scheme, ie, to ask a question which I won't answer.
You wily rascal!
You mean you have me on ignore????
You?
Bruderherz?
Of course not!
But I get interrupted at times, & don't see every post.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Just one paragraph from the above article:
That figure, however, is only a down payment and falls far short of the $6 billion the fence is expected to cost. Lawmakers from both parties conceded that even at 700 miles in length, the barrier would leave nearly 1,300 miles of border uncovered.
Have any here ever driven at least a part of that boundary?
BTW, we now are at 0-net immigration along that border, so it's just fear-mongering racism by Trump to impress the gullible masses that form his base.
Metis. I think that is spot on.
Sees
Dragonslayer
To be blunt real quick.
I think white liberals would be very surprised how many Mexican-Americans from border states...
It's one of those areas where they (white liberals) tend to be "too busy speaking for them to actually listen to them" - while building up racism (and whatever-else-is-needed-ism) accusation propaganda that is used to secure votes via exploitation of defensiveness and emotionalism rather than critical thinking.
In my experience, it is pretty dang difficult to find hard-working, well-educated minorities who fall for it. In opposition to the portrayal of the lefty minority hive-mind.
Remember, even with Democrats - 40% wanted a wall/fence just 5 years ago, declining to 30% last year after Trump's association with it....yet now it's down to around 10% due to it being a primary attack by way of racist, xenophobic accusations against Trump/Trump supporters. Shouldn't it be obvious that this is not due to people thinking about the issue for themselves and forming an opinion?
I think white liberals would be very surprised how many Mexican-Americans from border states...
- Have a strong stance against illegal immigration in general.
- Support a wall/fence along the border.
It's one of those areas where they (white liberals) tend to be "too busy speaking for them to actually listen to them" - while building up racism (and whatever-else-is-needed-ism) accusation propaganda that is used to secure votes via exploitation of defensiveness and emotionalism rather than critical thinking.
In my experience, it is pretty dang difficult to find hard-working, well-educated minorities who fall for it. In opposition to the portrayal of the lefty minority hive-mind.
Remember, even with Democrats - 40% wanted a wall/fence just 5 years ago, declining to 30% last year after Trump's association with it....yet now it's down to around 10% due to it being a primary attack by way of racist, xenophobic accusations against Trump/Trump supporters. Shouldn't it be obvious that this is not due to people thinking about the issue for themselves and forming an opinion?
freethinker44
Well-Known Member
We should get the second amendment people to take care of this threat.
And by that I mean they should use their vast political resources, obviously, because, I mean, what else could have possibly been implied, am I right?
And if anyone interprets it differently they are dirty rotten liar.
According to your link:
That was from midway through the Bush administration, 2006. Ten years ago.
Its a fence, about 35% as long as the Trump Wall. Which gets higher and stronger every time he describes it.
I don't see how anyone can take Trump seriously without asking,"How is this signature campaign promise going to happen? "
Where is the 10s of billions going to come from? Maybe a hundred plus billion, given that cheap illegal Mexicans are currently a huge part of the construction industry workforce.
If they left, Usonian people are not going to build that wall at current labor rates.
Tom
Obviously we can't get those useless 21st Amendment people.
(They're all drunk as a skunk.)
That's offensive! Some of my friends are skunks, and only some of them are drunk.
My apologies to skunks.....the sober ones.
VioletVortex
Well-Known Member
While I do not particularly like Hillary Clinton, I see her as a good defense mechanism against the threat of Trump winning the election. I'd much rather have her in office than Trump, even though she probably wouldn't do much good.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Walls attract Mongolian's.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Her Supreme Court nominations is pretty much the only reason I'm voting for her, as it will safeguard LBGT rights, and give potential for booting Creationism out of science classes and abstinence only from school. And then she won't be building a severe tax burden of a wall or try to keep Muslims out. Though I find it funny that Conservatives are quick to point out a gun ban won't keep guns out of the hands of criminals because they are criminals, but they believe a wall will keep undocumented immigrants out and that terrorists will actually say "oh, nope, I'm not allowed in the United States so I can't go there."
Yeah, its all fun and games till that happens right. But did it work for the Chinese?
