joelr
Well-Known Member
HA HA HA again with "my opinion", yet that is your only criticism against me. HA,
Clearly you are saying this because the details reveal incorrect information.
So, please, explain how looking at details of a religion isn't important? Someone wrote a book detailing 27 prophecies. If those are only a "morass of details", why was the book written.
AND< WHY DID YOU OFFER IT AS EVIDENCE??????????
WHY IS THIS THE EVIDENCE YOU LINKED TO AND WHEN I GAVE A REVIEW OF THE EVIDENCE YOU MOVED THE GOALPOST, and now claim it's a "morass of details".
Wow, that's looks like a huge inconsistency and a fallacy as well.
Your links. Your "evidence", didn't work out how you wanted and suddenly it's me who is at fault.
This is textbook manipulation. Notice the dictionary link as a distraction as if it's a good point? Very manipulative.
It's your evidence dude. You linked to it. How dare you act so dishonest.
Perfect, this could not be more clear. You link to a book of prophecies as evidence, I study them to actually see, which was your intent.
When it turns out they are all wrong or lame, suddenly you shift the blame on me as not seeing the forest. Wow. Gaslighting at it's finest.
You have nothing. Are you going to drag this into the mud any further?
Again, perfectly demonstrating your dishonesty. You post a book of prophecies and when I show they are awful you name call and move the goal post.
Give up dude.
And yet, one of the books you posted to says the reasons we know a messenger is
new science
new philosophy
prophecies
new message
maybe one other thing.
And when I point out there actually is no new philosophy, here is the response. Goal post, moved.
And another goalpost move.
You said -
"A bunch of works clearly copied from the Quran and Bible. That sounds like an allegation.
Where is your proof? NOWHERE."
So I offer some proof and you suddenly agree. FAIL.
No, it's actually the proof you ASKED for above. I gave it and you dishonestly didn't respond except to use your new label "trees" you think is effective but is actually a hilarious and failed attempt at changing what you asked for. So lame.
Uh, yeah probably because it wasn't written to you.
Now you have resorted to answering my posts to other people and pretending like you are not reading them? Good because I'm talking to NOT YOU?!
It actually gets worse for you as it goes?
Uh, actually the last two posts you just said "trees" to was articles explaining how Bahai is extremely similar to Islam and looks to be a lot of borrowing. Articles that you cannot defend until later when you pretend I didn't offer evidence of borrowing.
So I'll re-post them.
Yes it is because I said over and over I don't care what you believe and never said you need a pass. Believe whatever claims you want.
so not a strawman. Again, give up on pretending to understand rhetoric. Or maybe learn it?
If you cannot make an argument why are you responding as a twitter feud would?
But I will repost how terrible his prophecies are to warn people about buying into this clam:
No response. I'll gladly re-post to expose these horrible claims.
To someone who ignores all the literally wrong prophecies. Ignores the lack of writing and philosophy skills. Ignores the lack of supernatural abilities or any other type of evidence, nothing new even though the revelations are supposed to be "progressive", these are not.
To someone who thinks evidence is literally "a guy claims to be a messenger". That's it. He claimed it, so it must be real.
Ok I bet you my bottom dollar that you cannot present any compelling or sufficient evidence that Jesus was anything except a normal man.
LOL, that sounds like YOUR OPINION?
Please provide evidence that excludes Smith but doesn't exclude the others.
You mean, you cannot argue effectively anymore but you think using rhetoric from Mean Girls sounds effective.
Again, I'll re-post as a warning:
Cargo Cults would also be true because the shaman messenger who had divine revelations from the communication pole left by the U.S. Navy, IS THE EVIDENCE!!!
Wow, so much is true I had no idea it was so easy?
Oh the prophecies, I'll re-post them in that case.
"No mising link", not wrong? We found it. Then found more, but "not wrong".
So if you just use denial hard enough does something become true?
Sure, all you need is any evidence at all?
Oh wow, ok, SO.....when it comes to your beliefs, it's your business. But MY beliefs, you sure have a lot to say about.
But how can Mormonism not be true when they also have a messenger, which is your evidence?
1) I'm not judging Bahai, I'm looking at the evidence, true things would not be afraid of having evidence examined.
2)The evidence already suggests no God is real, all Gods are mythology, people do make up revelations or are delusional. The afterlife is a product of Greek mythology. That is true for all religions, nothing special to Bahai. But a supernatural claim must be evaluated by the evidence, for those who care about what is actually true.
3) Gaslighting my evaluation into a "judgment that rolls off a duck's back" is manipulative and dishonest. Having to resort to this over and over shows you are probably clinging to something not real.
4)I already told you I don't care what you believe. I never said stop believing. Believe in whatever you like. If you openly claim it's real, on a public debate forum I will challenge the assertions and the evidence.
5) Calling a mere debate " All your judging ", is further gaslighting, especially ON A PUBLIC DEBATE FORUM. And is truly absurd. If you
