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Can we STOP exploiting our small towns for politics?

Which Of These Is Vandalism?

  • Adding masks to a wooden George and Martha Washington cutout

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Tearing off said mask

    Votes: 2 66.7%
  • The ummmm grass thing

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • All are vandalism. Getting rid of a vandal's vandalism is still vandalism.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • It's only if you interfere with what the town/federal goons do that it's vandalism

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Not tearing off the mask (removal of vandalism isn't vandalism) but the other two are

    Votes: 1 33.3%

  • Total voters
    3

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
I live in a small town, and unlike many people, I have no desire to move to a big city. During the fall, our town makes money on farmer's markets, we have fish fry days, and we have a big event called the strawberry festival (nevermind that I'm not sure we even still grow strawberries around here, this is an event that attracts pwople from miles around). During weeks where there is a BBQ, a metallic pig (it's a repurposed stove) gets rolled out from somewhere. It has a blacksmith. It has weavers. It has a lively folk art movement. It's a cute and quiet town with a wooden cutout statue of what I assume is George Washington and his wife (probably not).

You ever played the game Mother 3? Probably not, because it wasn't officially translated. It revolves around the plot of this town slowly getting subverted. At the start, they don't even use money, then after a major crisis, we see barter. Then some trader comes in with a "happy box" and we see the emergence of an economy. Gradually things get darker and darker until the town is abandoned and the remaining people have their doors all locked. Everyone moved to the city and it's just kinda gloomy and depressing.

During COVID time, some unelected goons probably from the state have taken to masking historic figures. They're also vandalizing and tearing down statues. In bigger cities, they may have posters of Adams or Lincoln wearing a mask (which already annoys me because it is completely unfactual) but here in our small town, you walk down the main street and there are cute little wooden cutouts (under normal circumstances) who are now forced to obey state edicts that didn't exist during their time (they had enough to deal with paying taxes for playing cards, tea, and other things). Awhile back I also plopped grass in Martha's mask (the idea being that she was breathing in stale moldy air but not only was it never noticed but it actually made her look like she was breathing), but after a vacation that kinda barely was (couldn't go inside shops, mainly just walked around outside except for one concert in a park), I'd had enough, and on the way back from the post office, I took off George's mask.

So here it is below. If you all wanna call the police on me for vandalism, I'm the one officer. But is it vandalism? When a statue gets BLM graffiti on it, is the person who undoes it a vandal? Probably not. Not unless our laws are now screwed up. But the making Martha breathe in moldy air, yeah that kinda was (it's not noticeable though).
I don't think this double standard of freely allowing some oafs from the state department to put a mask on something that someone else painted is okay, yet getting rid of it is not. But that's why I'm making a poll.

The thing is, I'm not sure whether I want our small town in the middle of nowhere (aside from being county seat and part ofa road to other small towns) to be a mouthpiece of policies that it doesn't necessarily agree with. This whole masking historical (or at least colonial, if they aren't in fact George and Martha Washington) figures smacks of heavy propaganda. This is a small town, but more importantly, this is OUR small town, and it's getting propagandized by its own cute wooden cutouts.

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How truly pathetic that we have an Idiot in Chief in the Whitehouse who has actually politicized something as basic and common sense as wearing face masks during a global pandemic. Even worse are the folks who ignorantly rally around the Orange Twit and act as if their civil rights are being violated just because the owners of businesses insist that they were a mask while they shop. That anyone could be upset because folks have put masks on wooden statues in order to emphasize the important of basic safety during a pandemic is truly sad and pathetic.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
, if nobody in my family can enter a store,
Wuh?
Where I live(USA) people go into stores all the time.
They have rules, like you can't go in nude. Here in Indiana you can't legally go into a store without a mask, pants, a shirt(if you're female) and shoes. But that does not mean you can't go in.
Tom
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
How truly pathetic that we have an Idiot in Chief in the Whitehouse who has actually politicized something as basic and common sense as wearing face masks during a global pandemic. Even worse are the folks who ignorantly rally around the Orange Twit and act as if their civil rights are being violated just because the owners of businesses insist that they were a mask while they shop. That anyone could be upset because folks have put masks on wooden statues in order to emphasize the important of basic safety during a pandemic is truly sad and pathetic.
Its even more pathetic when rights are lost in the name of safety and security and people dont care.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Great point. Someone who refuses to wear a mask is literally pushing possibly COVID-laden air in my face and possibly causing me to get sick and die. To me then it becomes literally a matter of life and death and when my life is threatened, I'm going to respond.


Don't you believe your mask is working?
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
Its even more pathetic when rights are lost in the name of safety and security and people dont care.

What rights are you imagining have been lost in the name of safety? Are you under the impression that you have some sort of a guaranteed right to enter a privately owned business without a mask, even when the owner of that business has decided to make wearing a mask mandatory? You have every right to refuse to wear a mask... but of course you have to be willing to live with the consequences of your decision... and that means that any store owner also has the right to refuse to let you into their store for not wearing one.

No one's rights have been lost. You are free to refuse to wear a mask and store owners are free to tell you to go find another store to shop at. Don't get your panties in a twist just because your right to not wear a mask doesn't invalidate a store owners right to insist you wear one if you want to enter their establishment.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
The mask is 70-80% effective, and being outside v inside is roughly 18 times safer.

When in public with people close by, I always wear a mask, and my wife does the same. IMO, it's a matter of respect for others and greater safety for them and us. My wife lost a cousin, and several others that we know were close to death, all from the covid. One of our granddaughters had it, but fortunately she's fully recovered after two extremely rough days.

The Detroit-metro areas, whereas all of the above and us live, was very hard-hit early on as we only lagged behind NYC in terms of the percent that caught it. Now, because of learning our lesson and because of an intelligent and tough governor, we have a relatively low current rate per 100,000 as compared to other states, averaging 5-10 per day dying [it's gone up over the last two or so weeks, and one day last week Florida had around 250 die in just one day] If I go to a nearby Meijer or Kroger or Costco store, almost everyone has a mask on. In our church, everyone is required to wear a mask and social distancing is required.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Its even more pathetic when rights are lost in the name of safety and security and people dont care.
What rights in particular? Do you think speed limits, seat belt laws, helmet laws, public smoking laws, etc. are unreasonable? Anti-maskers should all take a **** on the sidewalk to protest the tyranny of public health and safety.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
It has spread like wildfire at areas and events where preventive practices were ignored.

Do you cover your mouth when you cough or sneeze? Do you wash your hands after using the restroom? Do you even wipe?

Do you believe your mask is working?
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Do you wear a mask every time you venture out?
Absolutely, and for perfectly rational reasons. I'd elaborate, but rational doesn't seem to be in your playbook.

Oh, what the hell...
  • Everywhere that has lifted lockdown restrictions is seeing rapidly increasing infections
  • The US is heading for a third wave
  • Donald Trump will say, "hey, the young, it doesn't affect them -- great immune systems, rah, rah" like the idiot he is, forgetting that in fact, they young DO get it (10.3% of US cases are under 18), but don't suffer dramatic sickness so often -- but they still bring it on home to the folks and grand-folks -- who are much more likely to be dead as a result.
  • The US is losing 800 people EVERY DAY to this thing -- that number is going to go up as we enter the fall season.
But never mind, go back to wallowing in your Trumpian untruths, and don't worry about it
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Do you believe your mask is working?
When was the last time you were in a hospital and saw a doctor or nurse treating an infected person while not wearing a mask? And for the record, doctors and nurses are being infected at a much lower rate. I'm betting the reason is neither magic nor miracle -- just the obvious result of doing what is known to work.

But back to your fantasy life...
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Don't you believe your mask is working?

All the studies have shown :
  • It takes a certain concentration of the virus to infect people.
  • Good masks reduce that concentration.
  • Everyone wearing masks reduces it a lot more
  • Social distancing is also part of the picture.
  • Masks reduce the odds of getting sick.
  • Location is important. Being outside is safer than inside.
From that, I have a number of masks. I have some N95 masks for the riskiest situations. I have masks that are made according to research with droplets. I have lightweight masks for walking outdoors
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Of course. Dosent take a brain surgeon that the virus is permanently here to stay. No matter what people do. Mask or no mask.
Treatments are getting better. A vaccine is coming. Here to stay does not mean anything. Having the most people stay alive and keeping down people with long-term or permanent disabilities from the virus does matter.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
How truly pathetic that we have an Idiot in Chief in the Whitehouse who has actually politicized something as basic and common sense as wearing face masks during a global pandemic. Even worse are the folks who ignorantly rally around the Orange Twit and act as if their civil rights are being violated just because the owners of businesses insist that they were a mask while they shop. That anyone could be upset because folks have put masks on wooden statues in order to emphasize the important of basic safety during a pandemic is truly sad and pathetic.
To be fair, the USA is not the only place where such people exist. Other places are different because such people are not being lied to and cheered on by government.
 
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