Can we STOP exploiting our small towns for politics?

[shunyadragon]

Treatments are getting better. A vaccine is coming. Here to stay does not mean anything. Having the most people stay alive and keeping down people with long-term or permanent disabilities from the virus does matter.

Word of extreme caution: Vaccines are not considered a solution to the pandemic, but as a part of a planed long term way to reduce the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic. Herd immunity is not an answer either. It is part of the natural evolution of the virus and hosts, and yes a degree of immunity is possible in population effected by COVID-19 as with all viruses. but herd immunity is very variable, and viruses often mutate around herd immunity over time as well as the effectiveness of vaccines.

There are three likely futures for the pandemic:

(1) The COVID-19 corona virus will gradually fade away never to return like it's cousin the SAR's virus.

(2) The COVID-19 will become endemic to humanity, maybe less virulent or unfortunately still deadly to the vulnerable and elderly, and pop up now and then, and locally and regionally like the Bubonic Plague virus.

(3) It will be come cyclic and jump from species to species and back to humans, maybe seasonally. Cats appear to be widely infected by COVID-19.

 

[shunyadragon]

To add: The poll is worded in a way I could not answer.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Do you wear a mask every time you venture out?

Yes. And curse myself when I forget and immediately turn around as soon as I realize.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Its even more pathetic when rights are lost in the name of safety and security and people dont care.

Its pathetic to see that in response to the responses of a disaster. Indiana occasionally prohibits travel during the winter months because it's too dangerous and makes things significantly more difficult for emergency responders. No where lets you drive with flashing lights on your car for a number of very good reasons. We don't allow drunk driving or indoor smoking because of the risk poses to others. Right now wearing mask is sort of no different than wearing a condom. Its not perfect, but its very good at what it does, especially the protecting others part. Amd it's the responsible thing to do during casual encounters and contact with others, and even more serious affairs because the risks are high enough to mandate taking them seriously. Amd if you don't want to consent to wearing one, you aren't entitled go be let in.
And because this is a pandemic, the answr to what you can do for each other, your country, or humanity is help prevent the spread of such a nasty and very contagious virus. The science is basically settled on masks at this point.

 

[BSM1]

Is your seatbelt working?

Excellent point. If my seat belt is working, what difference does it make if you wear one or not?

I don't believe it is working, I know it is.

If yours is working, what difference does it make if I wear one or not?

When was the last time you were in a hospital and saw a doctor or nurse treating an infected person while not wearing a mask? And for the record, doctors and nurses are being infected at a much lower rate. I'm betting the reason is neither magic nor miracle -- just the obvious result of doing what is known to work.

But back to your fantasy life...

Hmmm...how many patients in surgery are required to wear masks? Could it be that the doctor's masks are sufficient? If your mask is working, what difference does it make if I wear one or not?

 

[shunyadragon]

Excellent point. If my seat belt is working, what difference does it make if you wear one or not?

If yours is working, what difference does it make if I wear one or not?

If masks are functional in reducing the spread of COVID-19. and the it is well documented that masks and social distances greatly reduce the spread, if you do not wear a mask you are contributing the spread of COVID-19. Protection is documented as a two way street, because of the limited effectiveness of masks, unless you have the very expensive masks on.

Hmmm...how many patients in surgery are required to wear masks? Could it be that the doctor's masks are sufficient? If your mask is working, what difference does it make if I wear one or not?

All masks are only partially efficient in limiting the spread of the corona virus. Those that do not where the mask and are positive are spraying the droplets and mist containing the corona virus.

How does COVID-19 spread if it is not by breathing out droplets and aerosols in to the air and others inhaling them that resulted in almost 7 million cases and 200,00 deaths alone in the USA?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Hmmm...how many patients in surgery are required to wear masks? Could it be that the doctor's masks are sufficient? If your mask is working, what difference does it make if I wear one or not?

During my last surgery, I had to be entubated to help me breathe. That's a bit of a mask stopper. But no doubt you'd prefer if I didn't breathe at all.

 

[columbus]

Think of it this way. Theres a transformation by which a new Republican supporter is born each and every time things like this happen.

"There's a sucker born every minute"

Famous Capitalist
P. T. Barnum

Tom

 

[QuestioningMind]

To be fair, the USA is not the only place where such people exist. Other places are different because such people are not being lied to and cheered on by government.

Oh, I agree, there are ignorant people everywhere... but sadly they appear to be far more easily manipulated here.

 

[shunyadragon]

Its pathetic to see that in response to the responses of a disaster. Indiana occasionally prohibits travel during the winter months because it's too dangerous and makes things significantly more difficult for emergency responders.

Minnesotans and North just climb on snow mobiles. Not enough people to social distance. Everyone wears snow masks.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

If yours is working, what difference does it make if I wear one or not?

Why do you keep asking this when we've been over this a billion times?

 

[Heyo]

If yours is working, what difference does it make if I wear one or not?

 

[Twilight Hue]

"There's a sucker born every minute"

Famous Capitalist
P. T. Barnum

Tom

"I'll gladly pay you back Tuesday for a hamburger today".

Famous Moocher
Wimpy

 

[Father Heathen]

Excellent point. If my seat belt is working, what difference does it make if you wear one or not?




If yours is working, what difference does it make if I wear one or not?




Hmmm...how many patients in surgery are required to wear masks? Could it be that the doctor's masks are sufficient? If your mask is working, what difference does it make if I wear one or not?

Oh, Jesus... You do realize the purpose of the mask is to prevent you from spreading it, not contracting it, right? Have you been living under a rock? That's like asking why should I cover my mouth when I couch or sneeze if you do?

 

[Father Heathen]

Why do you keep asking this when we've been over this a billion times?

Willful ignorance and intellectual dishonesty. It's another example of politics morphing into a religious cult.

 

[shunyadragon]

Oh, Jesus... You do realize the purpose of the mask is to prevent you from spreading it, not contracting it, right? Have you been living under a rock? That's like asking why should I cover my mouth when I couch or sneeze if you do?

Actually the mask works both ways to a certain extent, unfortunately it is less effective preventing you from in hailing it, because when you breath in more air goes around the mask.

 

[Father Heathen]

To add: The poll is worded in a way I could not answer.

It's completely nonsensical.

 

[BSM1]

Oh, Jesus... You do realize the purpose of the mask is to prevent you from spreading it, not contracting it, right? Have you been living under a rock? That's like asking why should I cover my mouth when I couch or sneeze if you do?

Sooo...you sayin' your mask is completely useless in stopping you from getting Covid? Dang! No wonder you don't sleep at night.

 

[Father Heathen]

Think of it this way. Theres a transformation by which a new Republican supporter is born each and every time things like this happen.

Not really. Anti-science imbeciles tend to already be republican, anyway.

 

[BSM1]

Sooo....wear two masks. Problem solved.