Hi
EVPs can easily be explained.
The thing is people who believe they are indeed supernatural beings recorded on tape, dismisses that fact
There is an endless study of everything we CAN study. Science from the beginning of time is trying to explain and find a proof to any of those suggestions.
So far, none have popped
Thanks
Until the counter evidence appears.
Every theory is correct only if there is a way to prove it wrong.
When a theory is proven wrong, there is no way to suddenly prove it is right again.
You have to let go of the theory, and find another one that explains things and the thing that just proved wrong the predecessor.
Exactly
How can one prove God wrong?
How can one prove Neptune wrong?
How can one prove that there are no 5 headed creatures that live among us in a parallel dimension, and in fact, we are no really us rather puppets of each of those creatures?
As long is there is no way to prove it wrong, it
cannot be an actual theory.
Exactly. (I would even say All, not most)
You've learned to love? What does it mean?
As i see it, the learning is passed from generation to generation.
I Actually find feelings quite fascinating
Would you imagine feelings is something that evolves? The next generations will probably have a different set of "feelings"
I Find that extra ordinary
yet completely makes sense.
In order for it to be a theory, don't you have to provide some way to validate that theory?
Infra red as well
When the theory of infra red light was presented, it had many evidence and measurements to support it.
nope.
How about this one ?
That's great. if it can be tested for validity, it can be tested for in-validity.
How can one validate your theory?
I Am sorry you see it like that.
I am literally trying to understand.
I Cannot deny your theory because I don't understand what it means.
New Age wrote:
Yes, I do investigate these things, but through skepticism, and doubt,
You wrote:
I find it hard to believe your "life light" is based on a Skeptic POV.
Can you please elaborate about your investigation? ( In a nut shell(ish)
)
What are your main sources for the theory?
In what ways have you tried validating this theory?
Have you shared this theory to others?
What were their claims or suggestions?
nope.
I Would suggest "love light" must have an impact on someone. So at least I would expect to witness something different to people who have high levels of "love light".
There must be at least one way of "effect" upon which you base your theory.
Like... guess the Theory game?
I Don't understand
Really don't.
I Still couldn't really understand what "love light" means
nope again
lol
Thanks?
Cheers
Are you suggesting you have different "receptors" than mine?
I am sorry
I don't want you to think I ridicule your ideas. They are creative and interesting.
I Do however try to understand what stands behind the theory.. or is it really just an "I wonder if" theory.
It sounds like you know my entire educational past
I Actually come from a family who is very spiritual and most of my relatives actually practice spiritual activities.
I Have red, read and probably will read more about many spiritual and supernatural concepts.
I Actually try and study as much as I can about any topic I encounter.
My questions are to try and understand what you suggested and not in the means of harm.
Sorry if you saw it like that.
I Have a Rei-Ki level 2 "diploma".
I practiced "Tarrot".
I went to countless of spiritual workshops.
Thorough my endless search to learn more and more, I just recently (5~ years) came to realize how wrong my POV about life was.
No no... Thank you
Since it seems futile for me to answer every point you made, I guess we can over a period of time. So thanks for the discussion.
Let me start off with this....just so you don't think I am some crazy poster without any background.
Although I have not practiced Rei-Ki, but I am familiar with the set-up. In fact, I used to and still do every once in the while, read Tarot. I started in 1995 and did it ritualistically for about 4-5 years. Within that period of time, I also learned Numerology, because of the close relationship to the Tarot it plays.
In truth, I'm Agnostic, with a slight lean on the Spiritual, so I have a fairly good knowledge basis of anything paranormal, supernatural, pseudo-sciences, and many religious rituals and beliefs.
I've study Christianity until I could do so no more.
I've study Shamanism and the Spiritual relationshipm of the Pre-Columbian cultures, including the Maya, the Inca, the Aztecs, and even ventured to utilize the Hopi Indians and other SW American Indian cultures (the spiritual side) to compare and inform myself on the many differences these peoples have had.
I've study fundamental quantum physics to better understand that level of Science, although I am not a good math person by any stretch of the means.
I've studied the UFO phenomenon, ghosts, spirits, spirit orbs, EVPs and the many, many aspects of "ghost hunting"....but have yet to embark upon one of my own.
I've read the Hindu Sanskrit, the Egyptian Book of the Dead, and the Tibet Book of the Dead. I've learned to understand how people transited the globe in "pre-history", as well as tried to understand the Sumerian cuneiform texts.
I've studied and learned a lot since I embarked upon this journey since I was 16.
Do I honestly think/believe/perceive that another "spiritual dimension" exists? I do. Can I prove it? Not yet.
I disagree with you that video and electronic evidence of the supernatural is not evidence. It is. IMO - many people refuse to accept this evidence, because there is not set laws for them to be categorized under. I also believe that Science will have the last say on if there is another dimension outside the known four.....the theory exists, but unfortunately, I'm no scientists or even have a scientific degree. I'm actually a nobody living in Albuquerque, NM with a drive to understand this mystery.
In truth, I've had one personal experience with the supernatural, after a 9 hour hour surgery to remove a cancer I had. Was I hallucinating? Was it the drugs I was on?
Could be. But also it could not be.
Have I been able to duplicate this moment? No. But I've tried.
IMO - the spiritual world has "rules" of sorts that do not correlate with current "earthly" properties or laws.
- They can see us, we cannot see them, unless our mind or the existing environment has some sort of outside interaction involved.
- My experience was only for about 10 second, if that....and there were five other people in the room. I asked all of them who their friend was and pointed to some gent near the door. They all looked at me as if I was crazy. I saw what I did and there will be no one to tell me otherwise. That was in 1995. I've made it my mission to understand what I have.
So in summary - I can go on some extensive dialogue on what can not be proven, but you and I both know that the absence of evidence - in which the paranormal does have evidence that exists - is not a final conclusion that what is being investigated is not true, just because it lacks evidence.
- Clearly you dismiss new fossils being found that were unknown to man previously, right? And sometimes those are not found for MILLIONS of years, but finally discovered.
- Or even soft tissue in dinosaur bones that have been petrified.
from the article.....and if you think about it.....dismisses your "theory" or hypothesis....
"The problem is, for 300 years, we thought, 'Well, the organics are all gone, so why should we look for something that's not going to be there?' and nobody looks," she said."
Controversial T. Rex Soft Tissue Find Finally Explained
So in truth, and not to be disrespectful....you've come to a conclusion that you cannot support. Oh, you will say that you don't have the details, and I agree, but please don't erroneously start saying that things are not true, when you cannot prove that they are not true, especially when we both know that things can and do stay hidden from human eyes and senses for many, many years.
Many scientists and others like you "don't know".....and actually disregard the "I don't know" issue, to say what you have....."there is no evidence"....or some other deflecting phrase.
I know many things regarding these "pseudo-sciences".....and I also know many scientists are or have actively also researched this field.
Dr. Raymond Moody's 1970's book "Life After Life" is a great example of Science investigating the paranormal. Are you going to say this guy was not a viable researcher?
Amazon.com: Life After Life: The Bestselling Original Investigation That Revealed "Near-Death Experiences" (9780062428905): Raymond Moody: Books
What about Dr. William Tiller's work with light and energy emissions we humans produce?
https://www.amazon.com/Science-Human-Transformation-Intentionality-Consciousness/dp/0964263742
Like I have stated....I could give you explanation after explanation, and try to answer your questions upon questions......but why? What will that do for your life? Will it change it to believe what I do?
Probably not.
Will it cause you more questions? Probably so.
Will you work through the questions and try to find an answer? I don't know if you will. If you say you have been involved with "spirituality" and had to ask me what "love light" is, well, you sound spurious with doing so.....as you would have been in contact with that terminology.
In truth Sergev, I really don't need to explain myself, because it is my life and journey I've taken, and we all have different paths to follow seeking what we think is the truth.
Is my search definitive? No it isn't, nor will it ever be.......because I already know that I will find my answers.....when I die.
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And no...I am not out to get to that point anytime soon. I prefer to have fun looking at and better understanding that which I do not know......thus am still seeking the truth.
Now you also know why I reject emphatically the religious systems of the world. They lie to their followers and IMO - quite incomplete on what they should be teaching.
Thanks again for responding and I apologize for not answering all of your points.....but hopefully gave you a synopsis of why I ask the questions I do, or make the statements I have.
"We're on a mission....a mission from God." Elwood Blues
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