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Can you debunk this theory?

Segev Moran

Well-Known Member
I believe I was responding to this statement "in a nut shell, the movie presents a very interesting theory that the afterlife is not really an afterlife, rather a person kind of "resets" its life to the most recent point that he regrets the most and so it continues until he finally is able to choose differently."

However you are right that I was providing acounter theory that has evidence while the movies theory does not.
I Think we have a misunderstanding here. Sorry.

I Do not believe the movie's theory.
The movie doesn't present any "true life" evidence.
The movie only suggests the future possible technologies we might have based on the current understanding of the universe we have today.

What i was intrigued with (As I don't have enough understanding of all the scientific concepts in the movie, is if there is an actual contradiction to any proven scientific theory.
 

Segev Moran

Well-Known Member
One can only debunk something that has been somewhat substantiated to begin with.
That's what I want to know... it this theory somewhat sustained or not.
(When i say somewhat sustained, i mean that it is a possible scenario based on the scientific knowledge we have today.

This thread is like me asking if anyone can debunk the movie Avatar...
not really.
 

jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member
That's what I want to know... it this theory somewhat sustained or not.
(When i say somewhat sustained, i mean that it is a possible scenario based on the scientific knowledge we have today.

The answer is no because it's not at all based on the "scientific knowledge that we have today." That's my whole point. I'd challenge you supply said knowledge if you think I'm wrong.

New Age Mysticism, and other such hocus pocus, seems to get more of a pass in these conversations than the well-established religions and faiths because they add an air pseudoscience to their explanations and people somehow think that makes them more legitimate... But the problem here is no different than a theist arguing for a God of the Gaps... It just becomes a New Age Idea of the Gaps...

Just because there are some open-ended questions in a certain field of philosophy or physical science does not then mean that an omnipotent deity, or enlightened Chakra crystal healing powder, suddenly becomes more a legitimate explanation for that lack of knowledge.

God of the gaps - Wikipedia

Deepak Chopra, for example, is a wonderful example of this. He's a well spoken man who is quite intelligent and even has a decent amount of charisma. But his arguments, on the whole, are nonsense and based almost entirely on people's desire to have something magical in their lives than in actual scientific discovery. He's a mystical used car salesman. Another word for that could be charlatan.

If we replace gaps in knowledge with magical whimsy fairy tales of reliving our greatest regret, that can be fun. But it offers nothing in the way of being an argument for legitimacy.
 

Segev Moran

Well-Known Member
The answer is no because it's not at all based on the "scientific knowledge that we have today." That's my whole point. I'd challenge you supply said knowledge if you think I'm wrong.
Can you please elaborate?
What for example is not based on current knowledge. Please note i am not referring to technological abilities, rather scientific knowledge.
New Age Mysticism, and other such hocus pocus, seems to get more of a pass in these conversations than the well-established religions and faiths because they add an air pseudoscience to their explanations and people somehow think that makes them more legitimate... But the problem here is no different than a theist arguing for a God of the Gaps... It just becomes a New Age Idea of the Gaps...
The movie imo doesn't present anything spiritual.
One might give the concept spiritual ideas, but the movie doesn't deal with the question of a spiritual realm(by whichever definition you prefer).
the only one "spiritual" concept it deals with is a "hunch" or a "first sight love".
Just because there are some open-ended questions in a certain field of philosophy or physical science does not then mean that an omnipotent deity, or enlightened Chakra crystal healing powder, suddenly becomes more a legitimate explanation for that lack of knowledge.
Of course not.
Can't understand how you cam to deal with gods and spirits??? whats that got to do with this post?
Deepak Chopra, for example, is a wonderful example of this. He's a well spoken man who is quite intelligent and even has a decent amount of charisma. But his arguments, on the whole, are nonsense and based almost entirely on people's desire to have something magical in their lives than in actual scientific discovery.
I Agree :)
He's a mystical used car salesman. Another word for that could be charlatan.
Whats worse? Preaching A (without a proof) or believing A without a proof?
I can assume D.C. probably believes what he is preaching.
If we replace gaps in knowledge with magical whimsy fairy tales of reliving our greatest regret, that can be fun. But it offers nothing in the way of being an argument for legitimacy.
Agreed :)
 

Cateau

Giovanni Pico & Della Barba Devotee
Why do you promote the Self (things you do) so much. Clearly you express things that can be done without religion or the need to be part of it.

You probably don't even believe in all of what Jesus taught, huh?

Uuuuuhhhhmmmmmm, is it more likely that I did not look at what I typed when I typed it OR that you did not understand what you read.....hmmmmm these are the types of questions that keep me up at night. That is what I was trying to express actually, and obviously if I believe in what god taught then I believe what his Son taught. Same difference.
 
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