3rdAngel
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Both people claiming to be right does not mean that they are both right and that someone is not wrong. Likewise that does not mean that someone that is in error should not be corrected as stated in the scriptures already provided to you in the previous post like God requests us to do. The scriptures are the only standard of what is true and what is not true. Our opinions do not really mean much in Gods eyes according to the scriptures (Romans 3:4).Wouldn't every professed Christian say that?
Please do not misrepresent what I have posted dear friend as it is being dishonest or showing you have a misunderstanding of what is being said or you have not read what was posted. Where did I ever say to @2ndpillar he is of the devil? If I have never called this person of the devil why pretend that I have? Read the scriptures shared with you in the post you were quoting from in Ephesians 5:11; 2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Timothy 4:2; 5:20; Titus 1:13; 2:15; Revelation 3:19. We have a duty of love to correct someone promoting heresy. According to the scriptures if someone is promoting unbiblical teachings and we sit back in silence knowing better God will hold us accountable for not telling the truth (see also Ezekiel 3:16-27). That is not a place I want to find myself. It is our duty of love to God and our fellow man to tell the truth if what they believe is leading those people away from God and His Word. To do anything differently and keep silence for the sake of peace is not loving our fellow man and is not obeying the scriptures. (see Matthew 10:34-37).So, if you really think about it, while you have that in mind, and the person you are trying to pummel has the same thing in mind... guess what? Two guys butting iron heads... forever, because neither is willing to say, "Okay, you see it that way. I believe you are wrong, but perhaps we can talk about something else another time."
Instead, both are going... "You are from your father, the Devil..."
It's just stuck there. If you see what I mean.
Telling the truth and sharing scripture is what Jesus did who is our example. This is a public forum. If it was a one on one conversation I would have left this discussion a long time ago in accordance with the scriptures. However, even if I respond to someone not teaching the truth it is not for those who reject it but for all those who might be reading in the background that may want to know the truth of Gods Word. So I believe the scriptures disagree with your comments here and believe we have a duty of love to share the truth of Gods Word to those who have lost their way and that God holds us accountable for telling the truth.No. He says that in every discussion where the scriptures are used. I don't agree with most things @2ndpillar says. I agree with one or two things he says. However, I don't spend time disputing most of what he says, because that would be like arguing with the Devil.
Have a read of the scriptures of our duty of love that you were provided in the post you are quoting from but left out of your post here in Ephesians 5:11; 2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Timothy 4:2; 5:20; Titus 1:13; 2:15; Revelation 3:19 and Ezekiel 3:16-27. These scriptures are God's Word telling is our duty of love to tell the truth and correct those promoting heresy and our silence in this matter is disregarding God and His Word.Remember the example the angels set. (Zechariah 3:1, 2) 1 And he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of Jehovah, and Satan was standing at his right hand to resist him. 2 Then the angel of Jehovah said to Satan: “May Jehovah rebuke you, O Satan, yes, may Jehovah, who has chosen Jerusalem, rebuke you! . . .
(Jude 9) But when Michael the archangel had a difference with the Devil and was disputing about Moses’ body, he did not dare to bring a judgment against him in abusive terms, but said: “May Jehovah rebuke you.”
Once again show me where I have ever said "Well you are just one blind lost goat." Or... "You are from your father, the Devil...". If you cannot then why pretend I have said things I have never said? That is simply being dishonest.I'm happy with your telling me, 'That's between you and God.' Or, "You have one to judge you." That is, if the discussion has reached the point where it seems you have nothing more to say than... "Well you are just one blind lost goat." Or... "You are from your father, the Devil..."
I have tried to do the same thing asking questions and reasoning with him from the scriptures but my questions and posts are simply ignored and more of the same heresy's are that half of the new testament scriptures are from the devil, so I stopped responding after His last post. You seem to be the one keeping this going.In any case, it's what @2ndpillar believes, and he explains why... which is the important thing.
Once I understand why, I would prefer to spend time on that... trying to show why the reason is not good.
As posted to you earlier, it has never been about any of that for me at all. It has always been about believing and obeying what Gods Word says and putting Gods Word first above all things and standing up for what is true and what is heresy... see Ephesians 5:11; 2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Timothy 4:2; 5:20; Titus 1:13; 2:15; Revelation 3:19 and Ezekiel 3:16-27. For me personally I love God and find that kind of heresy of claiming that over one half of the new testament is from the devil. This is insulting to God and Christians and as my christian duty of love to my fellow man feel that such comments are in need of a response to tell the truth as shown in the scriptures above. So we will agree to disagree here.It's good you feel that way. Remember though, @2ndpillar probably will tell you that's exactly how he feels. He likely believes you don't know what you are saying, because of ignorance of scripture, which is causing you to talk nonsense. He might even call it blasphemy. I'm not saying you are talking nonsense, so please do not misread what I am saying. I think one has to know when a conversation has reached a dead end, and if one cannot move to something else, then I think that's an indication, ego is involved. I know @2ndpillar well enough, to know that it's wise to ignore his attacks on Paul - a vessel of God. So, I overlook those assertions. Attacking them might only result in a fight with words about the other person. If he wants to discuss Paul, I'd be happy to. I made a thread for that. Actually, I just realized I got sidetracked from that thread. I'll probably go back and see what responses I missed, or left hanging.
Take Care.
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