Canadian tribunal fines $55,000 for expressing Christian views on “transgenderism”

[Liu]

I'm saying if you are going to be with a man and play the female, why not just do it as the female you are.

I thought I had explained that above that there is a difference between gender identity in the sense of which body one is comfortable in and gender identity in the sense of which stereotypes one fits?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

It evident you carry a chip and I'm assuming it's due to the way LGBT were treated in the past.

Typical gaslighting.

 

[We Never Know]

DNA can create dysfunction, eg, XXY syndrome.
It's not that DNA itself is wrong, but things can happen which corrupt its expression.
I ran across an odd case where a women had an absorbed twin.
Her uterus had different DNA from other parts of her.
It came up because government wanted to remover her children because they
weren't hers....according to their DNA tests which didn't address her condition.
It wasn't a genetic disorder....it was an in-the-womb accident which resulted
in DNA causing trouble.

I've read cases like that as well. The person had 2 DNA's.

 

[Liu]

Yeah, no. It's just a fact that some trans men are gay or bi, just like with men or women in general. But most trans men will be straight i.e. attracted to women, like most people are straight.

Again, I really would like to have your source as I heard different.

 

[We Never Know]

I thought I had explained that above that there is a difference between gender identity in the sense of which body one is comfortable in and gender identity in the sense of which stereotypes one fits?

Have I attacked you, talked down to you, called you weird or abnormal, or said anything bad about you?

 

[We Never Know]

Again, I really would like to have your source as I heard different.

They don't have time to source it. They are to busy attacking me and all my hate speech I made, which by their claim is every post I made here

 

[Revoltingest]

I agree to a point. Killing for survival used to be normal. It still is in the animal kingdom. As we evolve we change what normal is. Not everyone sees normal in the same way.

I see things more as acceptable or unacceptable.
Gay consenting adults minding their own business....acceptable.
But murderers by definition are harming others....unacceptable.
Wild animals preying upon each other....acceptable.
Humans eating animals....acceptable.

 

[We Never Know]

I can only guess, but I would guess that this person is transgender in the sense of feeling better in a body of the opposite sex, but not in the sense of identifying with all the social roles associated with that sex.

So like me, you really don't understand either but you have idea's. That better than I have .

 

[We Never Know]

I see things more as acceptable or unacceptable.
Gay consenting adults minding their own business....acceptable.
But murderers by definition are harming others....unacceptable.
Wild animals preying upon each other....acceptable.
Humans eating animals....acceptable.

Agree. Again as we have evolved different things became unacceptable. I don't know but I would guess 100,000 years ago it was acceptable to kill off rival tribe members or the whole tribe.

 

[Revoltingest]

Agree. Again as we have evolved different things became unacceptable. I don't know but I would guess 100,000 years ago it was acceptable to kill off rival tribe members or the whole tribe.

Agreeing?
In this thread?
That is not how things are done here!

 

[Liu]

Have I attacked you, talked down to you, called you weird or abnormal, or said anything bad about you?

Well, not me personally, but you did say some things about transpeople in general that showed that your knowledge of this topic is a bit lacking. I pointed out one of the major issues and you continued writing as if I hadn't, so I felt the need to stress that - sorry if I sounded a bit impolite.

So like me, you really don't understand either but you have idea's. That better than I have .

I don't "understand" in the sense of that I don't know for sure what goes on in the head of some random other person. My guesses about that person's motives seem quite reasonable to me, though.

 

[We Never Know]

Well, not me personally, but you did say some things about transpeople in general that showed that your knowledge of this topic is a bit lacking. I pointed out one of the major issues and you continued writing as if I hadn't, so I felt the need to stress that - sorry if I sounded a bit impolite.


I don't "understand" in the sense of that I don't know for sure what goes on in the head of some random other person. My guesses about that person's motives seem quite reasonable to me, though.

No you haven't been impolite.
I don't understand so I ask. You can give your idea and I still may not understand. So I ask more. Not wanting it around my children when they were younger was my choice, to me it was no different than not wanting bible believing, God fearing Christians around them.
People don't understand why I own several guns and call me a bad person. I try to explain and they still don't understand.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

When my kids were young I didn't want bible thumps preaching around them or etc. Same as I didn't want LGBT people all lovey around them.
To many/some young kids it makes them think WTH? That's me and my kids. You may not mind with either around your kids.

Do you mind straight people "being all lovey around them"?

 

[We Never Know]

Do you mind straight people "being all lovey around them"?

Didn't really like that either. But honestly I didn't hold to it as much as I did the other.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Didn't really like that either. But honestly I didn't hold to it as much as I did the other.

So you have a double standard. Understood.

 

[We Never Know]

Well, not me personally, but you did say some things about transpeople in general that showed that your knowledge of this topic is a bit lacking. I pointed out one of the major issues and you continued writing as if I hadn't, so I felt the need to stress that - sorry if I sounded a bit impolite.


I don't "understand" in the sense of that I don't know for sure what goes on in the head of some random other person. My guesses about that person's motives seem quite reasonable to me, though.

Years ago when I worked in OKC but lived 60 miles out I carpooled with a gay guy. He liked nothing but other men. Some co-workers would make jokes or even ask me if I knew he was gay. I said sure I know. He doesn't hit on me or make out with another guy in front of me so I could care less. We get along great and have some good talks and laughs during the drive.

 

[We Never Know]

So you have a double standard. Understood.

I wouldn't let my kids around horses, cows or dogs mate either. I guess I had quintuple standards.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

I wouldn't let my kids around horses, cows or dogs mate either. I guess I had quintuple standards.

Comparing gay people acting affectionately to animals mating doesn't really help your case. But please, don't let me stop you digging.

 

[Sky Rivers]

Wow, sexist, transphobic and homophobic.

How is what he said any of those things?

 

[Sky Rivers]

Pretty much everything you post about LGBT people. You obviously view us as being on the same level of disgust as most people view pedophiles.

Did he say that he thought of LGBT+ with the same level of disgust he has for pedophiles?