Canadian tribunal fines $55,000 for expressing Christian views on “transgenderism”

[Twilight Hue]

The dysphoria is the illness that's treated, not being trans itself, smart one.

I suspect it doesn't stop there. I think trans plays a huge role but I'll concede the floor to you on that matter.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I dunno Frank. You don't come across as being a person particularly happy or comfortable.

I'm quite happy and comfortable who I am, but hate stupidity and bigotry. I also don't appreciate being insulted over being trans by idiots online who don't know what they're talking about. Stop trying to gaslight.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Studies also show that kids, male and female that are molested(mainly by males) that males lean toward males and females lean toward females. That doesn't make it normal. Males lean toward males because for some strange reason they feel comfort with other males(in not being abused) and females lean toward females because they carry resenmant toward males.

Edit: Which makes me wonder how much does being molested as a child push that child into being LGB.

Edit #2:
I read a story a few years back about a boy scout leader that was convicted of molesting/abusing 35 boys through 20 years. After they grew up 32 of those boys were either gay, abusive, or spent time in prison. The question is did that abuse push them toward those choices.

^Trash. Did you get that garbage from NARTH or Focus on the Family?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Two men raising a boy, two women raising a girl. What do you think the kid will see as normal? Our parents are our best teachers.

What's wrong with that? I was raised around gays and lesbians as a kid and didn't realize that society made a distinction between heterosexuality and homosexuality, viewing one as lesser, until I was older and learned that society is a homophobic cesspool. I was better off as a kid and just viewing it as a normal thing, without all the anxieties that are imposed on us.

 

[Revoltingest]

Your link is from a hate site and I've reported you for hate speech and trolling. It's amazing that this disgusting thread is still here. RF continues to become more hateful by the day.

Instead of snitching to poof the thread, why not enlighten them.
Let people have their discussions.

 

[Sky Rivers]

It doesn't.

If you ask me, transgender people are more miserable and depressed as ever.

I still don't see how slapping on a pair of boobs or surgically attaching a penis and being injected with volumes of hormones would make anybody happy and comfortable. It's a case where the insane runs the Asylum and nobody actually wins in the end.

I can maybe see society overall adjusting to the frankly freakish sights that comes from such alterations and changes, and such, givin time could normalize some, but I think the illness will still be untreated with all the problems that compound the issues with people who decide to go this route.

Mutilation doesn’t treat gender dysphoria and those “prescribed” mutilation don’t lead happier or more fulfilled lives, post mutilation.

As we (the unmutilated) are fully aware, mutilation doesn’t make a man into a woman or a woman into a man. Furthermore, in my experience, the appearance of the majority of victims of this barbaric practice, look and behave nothing like the sex they have been convinced to believe they “truly are”.

 

[Sky Rivers]

Who cares what you think. You're not a doctor or anything. Your opinion doesn't mean a damn thing when it comes to someone else's healthcare.

I care what I think and I’ll express my thoughts freely, within the rules of RF.

Have I triggered you by sharing my opinion?

 

[Sky Rivers]

Your link is from a hate site and I've reported you for hate speech and trolling. It's amazing that this disgusting thread is still here. RF continues to become more hateful by the day.

Yes, likely this thread exists because RF hasn’t been taken over by those who are so indoctrinated into “Liberalism” (Progressives specifically) that they can’t tolerate others having an opinion which runs against theirs.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Yes, likely this thread exists because RF hasn’t been taken over by those who are so indoctrinated into “Liberalism” (Progressives specifically) that they can’t tolerate others having an opinion which runs against theirs.

I'm not a liberal or progressive.

 

[Sky Rivers]

I'm not a liberal or progressive.

Okay, did I say you were?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Mutilation doesn’t treat gender dysphoria and those “prescribed” mutilation don’t lead happier or more fulfilled lives, post mutilation.

As we (the unmutilated) are fully aware, mutilation doesn’t make a man into a woman or a woman into a man. Furthermore, in my experience, the appearance of the majority of victims of this barbaric practice, look and behave nothing like the sex they have been convinced to believe they “truly are”.

This is one of those things where reality clashes with the intense desire to be something that they're actually not.

I would think the best therapy would be to encourage people to enjoy their dominant disposition while respecting their natural physicality for what it is. I think all sexes can enjoy maleness or femininity without having to undergo radical transformations that take it up to that extreme notch to where it becomes a battle between one's self-image and overall societal acceptance.

This is one of those things where reality is just going to have to be the teacher here when it comes to the end game.

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[Shadow Wolf]

I don't accept mutilation as an acceptable form of treatment, let alone "the best possible treatment".

You may not, but it's supported by research. And guess what? Some times the best course of treatment involves far more invasive and serious procedures that leave very heavy scaring. Myself, I have several scars around my left from having it hacked up, sliced open, pieces ripped out and put in, staples shot in here and there, and everything stitched back together. I've also had both wrists sliced open and have the scars from that.
And then of course "mutilation" is highly subjective. Some would say I'm mutilated from having a tattoo and multiple piercings, but I certainly don't feel that and not everyone does. But some do. That doesn't necessarily make it mutilation, and it's why a clinician must consider why something is being done. If the wrists are cut open as suicidal ideation, then the client needs immediate attention and care. If the wrists are being slit open as a part of carpal tunnel release, there is no reason for concern.
And, how you would feel if I started telling you how to do your job and insisted that you are wrong and that I am right even though I have ignorance of how your line of work is performed?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

This is one of those things where reality is just going to have to be the teacher here when it comes to the end game.

Reality is, my life has never been better. Things aren't perfect, and they never will be, but I actually enjoy being alive now and don't hate the fact I survived child birth.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Every human does.

They don't pose a danger or threat because they are homosexual or for engaging in homosexual acts. It effects absolutely no one else, and humans will continue to be around.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I still don't see how slapping on a pair of boobs

They are rather powerful visual indicators of femininity, and no all get the "slapped on."
And of course you don't understand it. You was born a male, and you have a male brain and identity. It's really about on par with how I do not understand how people can enjoy eating onions.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I raised 2 boys and 2 girls. They are all grown now but when they were in school if a girl that felt she was a boy used the boys bathroom or a boy that felt like he was a girl used the girls bathroom, I would have pulled them all out of school.

Typical case: nobody gives a damn or thought about it until a "concerned parent snowflake" starts to cry and demand things that are none of their business are their business.

 

[Sky Rivers]

This is one of those things where reality clashes with the intense desire to be something that they're actually not.

I would think the best therapy would be to encourage people to enjoy their dominant disposition while respecting their natural physicality for what it is. I think all sexes can enjoy maleness or femininity without having to undergo radical transformations that take it up to that extreme notch to where it becomes a battle between one's self-image and overall societal acceptance.

This is one of those things where reality is just going to have to be the teacher here when it comes to the end game.

Opinion | My New Vagina Won’t Make Me Happy

Exactly!

What I’m confused over is why some consider our position to be one of intolerance or even hate.

 

[Sky Rivers]

You may not, but it's supported by research. And guess what? Some times the best course of treatment involves far more invasive and serious procedures that leave very heavy scaring. Myself, I have several scars around my left from having it hacked up, sliced open, pieces ripped out and put in, staples shot in here and there, and everything stitched back together. I've also had both wrists sliced open and have the scars from that.
And then of course "mutilation" is highly subjective. Some would say I'm mutilated from having a tattoo and multiple piercings, but I certainly don't feel that and not everyone does. But some do. That doesn't necessarily make it mutilation, and it's why a clinician must consider why something is being done. If the wrists are cut open as suicidal ideation, then the client needs immediate attention and care. If the wrists are being slit open as a part of carpal tunnel release, there is no reason for concern.
And, how you would feel if I started telling you how to do your job and insisted that you are wrong and that I am right even though I have ignorance of how your line of work is performed?

A physically healthy woman or man who undergoes “sexual reassignment” surgery, shouldn’t be compared to a person who requires reconstructive surgery due to a car accident or who needs surgery to regain partial or full function of their hand or hands, for example.

 

[Sky Rivers]

Reality is, my life has never been better. Things aren't perfect, and they never will be, but I actually enjoy being alive now and don't hate the fact I survived child birth.

Pardon if this is personal but why did you hate the fact you survived child birth? Your birth or you, giving birth?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

A physically healthy woman or man who undergoes “sexual reassignment” surgery, shouldn’t be compared to a person who requires reconstructive surgery due to a car accident or who needs surgery to regain partial or full function of their hand or hands, for example.

Technically they can cope and live without that reconstructive surgery. Will it kill them to not have it? Not at all. How is it this is a need when people make do? I didn't "require," any of my surgeries, but they sure helped a helluva lot. I'd say pretty much the only surgery that I actually required was having my extremely oversized tonsils removed. None of the other surgeries I've had addressed something that could potentially snuff me in my sleep.