Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No. They want to blot out some parts and reinforce others. But that practice is all across the board both pro and con.
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Cancel culture used to control speech?
- Thread starter Deo Vindice
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Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Removing statues isn't doing that. Adding extra bits of information isn't doing that. What is being blotted out?
I've seen blotting out the other way around: e.g., Texas removing the Trail of Tears from history texts and asserting natives "migrated"
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Yeah, I've seen that kind going on.
I had a hard enough time growing up with religious parents but they weren't what I would describe as evangelical. More like follow the bible as long as it doesn't inconvenience you too much type Christians.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I was one of the evolution denying, 700 Club watching, gay hating, god should run everything sort of sixes and sevens nutters that makes the rest of the world look at America and wonder "seriously WTF?"
Deo Vindice
Member
The false religion of science and socialism have made society soft, now everyone is crying about a kid being mocked for spreading propaganda or a mom being mocked for wearing a chin diaper.
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
Amendment 13 (a) protects the right to projectile mucus coughing in order to uphold freedom of expression.
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
Had to look that up. RF floats on a sea of poe.
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
Used by the right as a pejorative, but actually means aware of societal discrimination. Rather like "political correctness" is a pejorative - you should be politically incorrect and so endeavour to offend as many as possible.
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
When did these jump into bed together?
Deo Vindice
Member
When both are used to replace the values of our country and religion.
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
I like how you turned the cough into a sneeze in order to validate your point.
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Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Sounds like you want to cancel people.
We in the present choose who we want to honour. That's largely shaped by what sort of world we want to see and what values we hold.
Is the example of, say, Egerton Ryerson one that you think that we today should be following? If not, why should we today honour him?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Anyone who claims science is a religion doesn't know the first thing about science. I'd wonder if you are trolling, but you're probably serious.
So, uh, just so you know you are relying very heavily and extensively on this "false religion" to participate here.
Well, Ryerson (24 March 1803 – 19 February 1882) was an educator and Methodist minister. He was a prominent contributor to the design of the Canadian public school system. After editing the Methodist denominational newspaper The Christian Guardian, Ryerson was appointed Chief Superintendent of Education for Upper Canada by Governor General Sir Charles Metcalfe in 1844. In that role, he supported reforms such as creating school boards, making textbooks more uniform, and making education free. Because of his contributions to education in Ontario, he is the namesake of Ryerson University, Ryerson Press, and Ryerson, Ontario.
Some of his writings influenced the Canadian Indian residential school system, which was established after his death. He shared the ideas of his day about natives, and females, for that matter. The former, he thought, needed to be educated in a way suitable for agricutural pursuits, and in the languages, morals and mores of whites. The latter, suitable to their destination as wives as mothers, should not receive much more than an elementary education, and boys and girls should be educated apart from one another.
The is a quote by Ryerson:
"On the importance of education generally we may remark, it is as necessary as the light – it should be as common as water and as free as air. Education among the people is the best security of a good government and constitutional liberty; it yields a steady, unbending support to the former, and effectually protects the latter... The first object of a wise government should be the education of the people...Partial knowledge is better than total ignorance. If total ignorance be a bad and dangerous thing, every degree of knowledge lessens both the evil and the danger."
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Yes - he helped to build the foundation for the residential school system, though as you point out, he died before it was implemented.
During his own life, though, he was a strong advocate against education of women. As he was building the education system you describe, he fought to exclude girls and women where he could and segregate them where he couldn't.
Do you find this praiseworthy?
Do you celebrate the educational system that Ryerson built, or the system that we have today, which has had most of the systemic discrimination Ryerson built into it eliminated?
... or to put it another way: there are only 21 universities in Ontario. Naming one after Ryerson means not naming it after someone else. Weigh all of the positive and negative aspects of his legacy together; do you seriously think that his "net" legacy is so great that he's more entitled to that honour than any figure currently not honoured that way?