"Catholic League: Sexual Abuse Victims Attract Demons"

[Revoltingest]

Wrong thread, mate.

I'm easily confused.

 

[Revoltingest]

I know....... judging by his grumbling and niggling you'd think he was heading for his second century.
I think that @Father Heathen could well do with some exorcising.... ??

I think he needs turkey & pumpkin pie.

 

[oldbadger]

I'm easily confused.

Don't play that card 'til you're 70! You're still a junior!

 

[oldbadger]

I think he needs turkey & pumpkin pie.

Turkey and pumpkin pie......... another bloomin' 'merican dish.

Turkey and Pumpkins, for Gawd's sake.


PS, I'm going to resurrect an old Thread and get you back later today.
Yeah! Shivering already, are we?

 

[Revoltingest]

Don't play that card 'til you're 70! You're still a junior!

I'm a prodigy regarding senility.

 

[metis]

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"The Catholic League’s Bill Donohue, commenting on a recent Atlantic article about the rise in requests for exorcisms, says that’s wonderful news. In fact, exorcisms could be most helpful for victims of sexual abuse, who are obviously possessed by demons.

Exorcism Advocate Bill Donohue
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Who are the most likely candidates for an exorcism? Approximately 8 in 10 are survivors of sexual abuse. [The Atlantic‘s Mike] Mariani explains why. “The exorcists — to be clear — aren’t saying sexual abuse torments people to such an extent that they come to believe they’re possessed; the exorcists contend that abuse fosters the conditions for actual demonic possession to take hold.”

From a Catholic perspective, this is daunting. It suggests that those who do such evil acts as sexual abuse create the fodder that attracts the devil to victimize the victim again. If this is true, the offenders are responsible for much more than molestation, and will have to answer for it.​

From a human perspective, it’s troubling because it means there are Catholics who seriously think victims of abuse will suffer once again at the hands of supernatural forces after they’ve already been traumatized by real ones.

Abuse victims need counseling and actual help, not a priest whose sole job it is to eradicate evil that doesn’t even exist. It’s a solution to a problem of their own creation."
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Gotta say, I thought Catholics did away with personal demons and exorcisms a hundred years ago.

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I cringe every time Donohue speaks as he certainly can't and doesn't speak for the Church as a whole-- thankfully!

 

[exchemist]

Bill Donohue is losing the plot, he's an embarrassment. He is going senile and does more harm than good to the Catholic Church.

Donohue! Is that so-and-so still around?
I recall picking up a leaflet of his in a Catholic church in Houston, when I lived there around 2000, and being appalled that such ugly sentiments could emanate from an apparently Catholic organisation. But then I found this sort of thing sadly was not untypical of religion in the US. It seems far more extreme, tribal and..well, unChristian, frankly, than in Europe.

 

[viole]

My understanding is that privately operated orphanages have been phased out in the U.S., Canada and other Western countries.

Better safe than sorry.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Skwim]

Come on Skwim, you must sutrely know that there are 400,000 Catholic priests in the World, and could easily have sussed my typo.

It's 1%, Skwim, just and only 1%.

Oh, I know it's not 10%, but was unsure if you knew it. After all . . . . . .

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[Shiranui117]

Not sure if you meant to say what you did or not. but it appears you're saying that the 4,000 priests who have been accused of sex crimes amounts to 1% of the 40,000 total in the world. 1% would be 400 priests. What you've presented is 10%. Is that it, 10% of the priests in the world have been accused of sex crimes?

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Have 10% been accused of sex crimes, or is that how many have been accused of sex crimes, plus cover-ups, plus neglegence?

It looks like he missed a 0. There are about 400,000 Catholic priests in the world, not 40,000.

 

[oldbadger]

I'm a prodigy regarding senility.

Don't try and pretend that you're demented than me!
I've even forgotten what I wanted to write before I've finished........ ummmm....

 

[Revoltingest]

Don't try and pretend that you're demented than me!
I've even forgotten what I wanted to write before I've finished........ ummmm....

What?
Do I know you?

 

[Twilight Hue]

I beg your pardon, Sir, but the Catholic Church is "the largest non-government provider of health care services in the world. It has around 18,000 clinics, 16,000 homes for the elderly and those with special needs, and 5,500 hospitals, with 65 percent of them located in developing countries."
Catholic Church and health care - Wikipedia

...And you want to call the whole establishment a snake oil racket..?

It is.

I remember transporting vouchers from insurance companies for Catholic institutions.

It's all about the Moola. If it wasn't for making tons and tons of Moola.

You wouldn't have...

"18,000 clinics, 16,000 homes for the elderly and those with special needs, and 5,500 hospitals, with 65 percent of them located in developing countries."

Money talks.

 

[metis]

Donohue! Is that so-and-so still around?
I recall picking up a leaflet of his in a Catholic church in Houston, when I lived there around 2000, and being appalled that such ugly sentiments could emanate from an apparently Catholic organisation. But then I found this sort of thing sadly was not untypical of religion in the US. It seems far more extreme, tribal and..well, unChristian, frankly, than in Europe.

Yep, and Donahue represents an extreme wing within Catholicism.

 

[metis]

It is.

I remember transporting vouchers from insurance companies for Catholic institutions.

It's all about the Moola. If it wasn't for making tons and tons of Moola.

You wouldn't have...

"18,000 clinics, 16,000 homes for the elderly and those with special needs, and 5,500 hospitals, with 65 percent of them located in developing countries."

Money talks.

There simply is no way to avoid the fact that religious institutions also rely on money in order to function, plus just a reminder that Catholic and most other religious institutions operate as non-profit. Hospitals don't build themselves, for just one example.

BTW, some of those who are involved in working for these Catholic institutions took vows of poverty, so let me just ask you if you have taken a vow of poverty? If not, are you also part of a "snake-oil racket"?

 

[Cooky]

Better safe than sorry.

Ciao

- viole

Better safe than sorry?

 

[Twilight Hue]

There simply is no way to avoid the fact that religious institutions also rely on money in order to function, plus just a reminder that Catholic and most other religious institutions operate as non-profit. Hospitals don't build themselves, for just one example.

BTW, some of those who are involved in working for these Catholic institutions took vows of poverty, so let me just ask you if you have taken a vow of poverty? If not, are you also part of a "snake-oil racket"?

Vow of Poverty? Are you joking? Have you ever seen a Catholic Bishops home?

 

[Father Heathen]

I know....... judging by his grumbling and niggling you'd think he was heading for his second century.

I think that @Father Heathen could well do with some exorcising.... ??

I've actually had an exorcism done before. The demon thanked the priest profusely for freeing him.

 

[Father Heathen]

Turkey and pumpkin pie......... another bloomin' 'merican dish.

Turkey and Pumpkins, for Gawd's sake.

Those crazy yanks... liking delicious things. How preposterous!

 

[ecco]

I find it amusing that the person who wrote that doesn't believe in possession.

Possession is real. Spirits are real. If someone is possessed by something actually nasty...

How is it that atheists never get possessed by demons?

Why are only people who believe in supernatural BS subjected to possession?

Does Satan know we are too smart and too rational to be fooled by him?