Catholicism vs. Christianity

[metis]

Actually the Roman Catholic Church declared Protestants were lost, and killed them. Protestants did the same. Of course, none of this could have been done by Christians. A man can call himself a fence post, but that doesn;t make him one. Declaring yourself a Christian, doesn't mean you are

I don't get into the "who's a true Christian" kinda discussion. And remember, "let he who is without sin cast the first stone". IOW, I don't use war as some sort of litmus test as there are many sins one could commit, as most assuredly we all have. I much rather prefer to take the position that if we have a problem, then we should try and correct it.

 

[C-Faith]

Catholic church can't be found in scripture.

 

[C-Faith]

I don't get into the "who's a true Christian" kinda discussion. And remember, "let he who is without sin cast the first stone". IOW, I don't use war as some sort of litmus test as there are many sins one could commit, as most assuredly we all have. I much rather prefer to take the position that if we have a problem, then we should try and correct it.

Catholic church can't be found in scripture.

 

[metis]

Catholicism has roots in Christianity, but left those roots to practice doctrines of men instead of God. Examples include 1 Timothy 4: 1-4

All religions and denominations "practice doctrines of men instead of God", largely due to the variability of interpretations plus adjustments throughout history. And remember, it was the church that chose the Bible and not the other way around.

 

[C-Faith]

All religions and denominations "practice doctrines of men instead of God", largely due to the variability of interpretations plus adjustments throughout history. And remember, it was the church that chose the Bible and not the other way around.

That is not entirely true (Matthew 7: 13-14).

There are some local churches and Christians who are obeying God's word - may not be perfectly - but more so than others...

 

[metis]

Catholic church can't be found in scripture.

It was a title that evolved and shows up in the 2nd century. Even though it shows up in Acts, the name "Christian" was not originally used by the church in reference to itself.

 

[metis]

That is not entirely true (Matthew 7: 13-14).

There are some local churches and Christians who are obeying God's word - may not be perfectly - but more so than others...

And you are defining "God's word" as...?

See what you are doing is taking a position that the early church actually did not take, namely that the Bible was the source of information and rules.

 

[C-Faith]

And you are defining "God's word" as...?

See what you are doing is taking a position that the early church actually did not take, namely that the Bible was the source of information and rules.

Actually I am reading from God's word.

2 Timothy 3: 16-17
Jude 3
2 Timothy 2: 5

 

[Palehorse]

Catholicism embraces Christianity. The word Catholicism ends in ism. That means Catholic teachings. A catholic is an individual. Christianity ends in ity. Christians are many. Some Christians believe in gay marriage. Catholics do not and are taught that gay marriage is wrong. Catholics can only be labeled Christian by other religions. Although gay people can be nice people, something is wrong with their thinking. Same sexs cannot reproduce. To label a Catholic as Christian would classify them as believing in gay marriage.

 

[metis]

Actually I am reading from God's word.

2 Timothy 3: 16-17
Jude 3
2 Timothy 2: 5

You obviously do not seem to understand much about the early history of the church.

The Bible is a great book, no doubt, but it cannot be "God's word" without slipping into idolatry. God is not the Bible and the Bible is not God, and the church throughout most centuries well understood this. To which extent it may be "divinely inspired" has long been debated, and pretty much all theologians historically and currently well know that it is clearly not inerrant.

 

[Palehorse]

The bible also contains the old testament and the new testament. Catholics tend to study the old testament and live by the new testament. But in between the two testaments when Jesus Christ actually walked and talked the world is actually where people belong. The middle class. But, today the middle class is dwindleing and Catholics are being converted to Christians.


y Katherine Weber, Christian Post Reporter
March 7, 2012|5:04 pm
Dozens of Israeli mail carriers in the city of Ramat Gan, a suburb of Tel Aviv, have refused to deliver Christian New Testament Bibles to residences, arguing that delivering the Bibles is forbidden according to their halacha laws, or the collective body of Jewish laws.

The employees of Israel's Postal Company were asked to hand out thousands of copies of the New Testament, translated into Hebrew, on Monday. Those opposed to the distribution told Israel's YNet News that handing out the New Testament may even be considered illegal.

"We always distribute business flyers and we have no problem with that, whether we agree with them or not," one postal employee told Ynet News.

"But this time it's different. This is missionary material, and from our understanding there's a law against that. It's not a religious issue," the employee added.


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[C-Faith]

You obviously do not seem to understand much about the early history of the church.

The Bible is a great book, no doubt, but it cannot be "God's word" without slipping into idolatry. God is not the Bible and the Bible is not God, and the church throughout most centuries well understood this. To which extent it may be "divinely inspired" has long been debated, and pretty much all theologians historically and currently well know that it is clearly not inerrant.

The "report" of the Early Church is contained in the book of Acts. Do you understand what the Holy Spirit was going to do? (Hint: John 16: 13 then read Acts chapters 1 and 2)

 

[C-Faith]

Catholicism embraces Christianity. The word Catholicism ends in ism. That means Catholic teachings. A catholic is an individual. Christianity ends in ity. Christians are many. Some Christians believe in gay marriage. Catholics do not and are taught that gay marriage is wrong. Catholics can only be labeled Christian by other religions. Although gay people can be nice people, something is wrong with their thinking. Same sexs cannot reproduce. To label a Catholic as Christian would classify them as believing in gay marriage.

Catholicism changes its stance on nearly everything - notice the pope said "Who am I to judge" when it came to homosexuality. This church is an apostate church, void of truth.

 

[Palehorse]

Catholicism changes its stance on nearly everything - notice the pope said "Who am I to judge" when it came to homosexuality. This church is an apostate church, void of truth.

Well, that pope is right. The pope can't judge people, only set down the rules on how to live a catholic life to get close to GOD as possible. But maybe GOD wants some people to be homosexual. Everybody has a purpose. And one person can change the world. Maybe the pope is a vessel of change. He also said he thinks his popacy will only be a short time.

 

[C-Faith]

Well, that pope is right. The pope can't judge people, only set down the rules on how to live a catholic life to get close to GOD as possible. But maybe GOD wants some people to be homosexual. Everybody has a purpose. And one person can change the world. Maybe the pope is a vessel of change. He also said he thinks his popacy will only be a short time.

The pope is wrong to approve homosexual acts.

Read Romans 1: 26-28 and 1 Corinthians 6: 9-10

People have a purpose - obey the Gospel of Salvation (Romans 1: 16)

The pope is an example of false teachings. Read 1 Timothy 4: 1-4.

 

[Palehorse]

The pope is wrong to approve homosexual acts.

Read Romans 1: 26-28 and 1 Corinthians 6: 9-10

People have a purpose - obey the Gospel of Salvation (Romans 1: 16)

The pope is an example of false teachings. Read 1 Timothy 4: 1-4.

I thought the pope never approved homosexuality, just refuses to judge people. Don't forget Catholics do have two popes, if GOD wanted the German pope to have dementia. Some sort of prophecy from other religions states the second to the last pope lives. I think people can judge other people and religions, just can't judge people in away that says "you must do this or that."

If I did that I would become a false preacher and I firmly believe that in the end times, there will be many.

 

[jeager106]

From wiki:
The Catholic Church teaches that Protestant churches are not in fact real churches as they do not have apostolic tradition of ordinations, and therefore, do not have valid Eucharist, nor are they in full communion with the successor of Saint Peter, the Pope.

Soooooo, it seems the Catholic Church rules that "other" Christian denominations
aren't Christian.
Humph!
So only Baptized Catholics are favored by "god" and go to Catholic "heaven"?
Thoughts?

 

[Palehorse]

Maybe they are going to restructure Catholicism and build it on Saint Paul instead of Saint Pete. Some sort of prophecy (in the rapture I think) says the Catholic church is the last to fall. I think they could possibly be right. All these molestations, law suits, and such really to me is Catholicism falling. Maybe they found out Saint Pete was a thief? Or maybe Saint Pete is actually Black Pete and was molested by Santa Claus. But because I believe in the rapture doesn't make me non~Catholic. I am just acknowledgeing another religions beliefs. I interpret their words differently, for example; When they say "The Catholic church is the last to fall." I would interpret that as meaning the last to fall is a Catholic person. But most people would interpret that as the entire religion, which could be both.

 

[Deidre]

Why do think some Catholics say that they are not Christians?

Think it's more along the lines of many non-Catholic Christians ''accuse'' Catholics of not being Christians.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Clearly the first church was in Jerusalem.
Peter and the other apostles formed many churches before Peter and Paul found their way to Rome.
At first Rome was just one of many. It took the authority of Augustine to establish the the primacy of that church.
Perter and Paul were long dead.
The various orthodox churches are at least as old...
Catholic simply means universal. Many churches are catholic including the Anglicans.