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Challenge for those that believe in billions of years for the age of things. Give anything that is more than 6000 years old. NO ASSUMPTIONS ALLOWED.

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
And you and the scientists doing the research believe the evidence is interpreted correctly insofar as dates are concerned, right?
Yes. For very good reasons. It's well within the range for radiocarbon dating and that has proved to be reliable and consistent with other dating methods, not to mention the archaeology.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I can't speak for people I've never met but I have no reason to suspect they are lying or wrong.
I wouldn't imagine that they were lying, and I cannot speak to them directly right now, but the dating process particularly along with the items they dated are in question. Furthermore, as you probably know, scientists can offer new and differing conclusions about evidence.
 

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
It is saying that's what the researchers believe the evidence they looked at and tested says. to them.
No. They were using established techniques that have been extensively tested and found to be reliable. Their work will also have been reviewed and checked by others.

In other words, they were applying the scientific method just like all the science you don't desperately want to be wrong in order to cling to your superstitions, does.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I would believe in a shorter age because millions and billions and trillions are huge numbers that I don't think any human can really wrap there head around I mean you almost might as well say that the earth is eternal.
Now that you mention it, I happen to agree with you. But of course, I'm not a scientist in that field. :)
OK, I'm amending this a little bit -- I wonder how scientists figure billions of years. :)
 
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YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
That's the good thing about the sciences, willing to make corrections, admit errors and move forward. Unlike the dogma of religion that can never admit it's wrong even in the face of overwhelming evidence.
Not all religions are like that. After all, in many respects they differ with one another and base their conclusions on the same document.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
That sentence makes little sense to me. Can you reword it.
those researching the site mentioned or any site archaeologically generally test for evidence. However they test for dating. They could be wrong. I hope that helps to explain what I meant. I also hope when I ask you a question for explanation you can and will explain what you mean and/or details.
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
those researching the site mentioned or any site archaeologically generally test for evidence. However they test for dating. They could be wrong. I hope that helps to explain what I meant. I also hope when I ask you a question for explanation you can and will explain what you mean and/or details.

I'm not a scientist, I didn't even finish school, my services were required on the family farm. If you're looking for detailed explanations of carbon dating from me you are barking up the wrong tree.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
ok good morning -- technically by this dating process it's still night here -- :) dark outside and early, early, early ok in the morning. So good early morning.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I'm not a scientist, I didn't even finish school, my services were required on the family farm. If you're looking for detailed explanations of carbon dating from me you are barking up the wrong tree.
I respect that. You probably know more about science being in the field of agriculture. I was raised a city girl, never had success with plants but I like the idea of fresh uncontaminated vegetables and fruits. Which I look forward to enjoying one day. Because I believe the earth one day (day?) is going to be a "fruitful" paradise with no contamination and no sickness and -- no dying. :)
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I'm not a scientist, I didn't even finish school, my services were required on the family farm. If you're looking for detailed explanations of carbon dating from me you are barking up the wrong tree.
P.S. I did some research about dating processes. It's a bit technical. And complicated. The actual process is not what I'm questioning, however, even though I know it's limited. It's the objects that are being tested and then put up as results of the theory. I'll try to explain later, right now it's time for me to say good early morning.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Which religion has admitted it was wrong?
They usually don't say that they are wrong, but they can change the understanding. That's called honesty. But after all, that's what Martin Luther did as a distinct example. And the various sects of the religions are essentially saying they are right but the other groups/sects are wrong. Good early morning again.
 
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