Chauvin verdict is in. Guilty!!

[We Never Know]

Count one - second-degree unintentional murder...Guilty
Count two - third-degree murder...Guilty
Count three - second-degree manslaughter...Guilty

Justice served in my opinion.

Now if the riot's start because that's just what some want to do and have been waiting for. That will ruin the justice

Filing for mistrial will be filed and then we all will go through it all again

Edit.

https://www-clickondetroit-com.cdn....guilty-of-all-charges-in-george-floyds-death/

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Count one - second-degree unintentional murder...Guilty
Count two - third-degree murder...Guilty
Count three - second-degree manslaughter...Guilty

Justice served in my opinion.

Now the riot's will start because that's just what some want to do and have been waiting for. That will ruin the justice

Filing for mistrial will be filed and then we all will go through it all again

Just saw it myself -- it's a very good day for justice!

 

[We Never Know]

Count one - second-degree unintentional murder...Guilty
Count two - third-degree murder...Guilty
Count three - second-degree manslaughter...Guilty

Justice served in my opinion.

Now if the riot's start because that's just what some want to do and have been waiting for. That will ruin the justice

Filing for mistrial will be filed and then we all will go through it all again

And to add... bond is revoked. Defendant to remain in custody awaiting sentencing.

 

[Subduction Zone]

And to add... bond is revoked. Defendant to remain in custody.

That only makes sense. He was found guilty on all three charges. He can appeal but the odds of overturning all three verdicts is so small that justice is best served by revoking his bond.

 

[Revoltingest]

Based upon what I've seen & read, the verdicts are reasonable.
But I still find the system highly flawed.
Ref....
BREAKING: Derek Chauvin Guilty On All 3 Counts In George Floyd's Death
Excerpted (with underlining added)....
While Nelson’s summation was lengthy, it was also complex. And that may be why Blackwell came back with this statement in his rebuttal argument. He said this case is not that complicated and that, in the state’s view, Chauvin caused Floyd’s death.
The line he left the jury with was this: “You were told, for example, that Mr. Floyd died because his heart was too big. You heard that testimony. And now having seen all the evidence, having heard all the evidence, you know the truth. And the truth of the matter is that the reason George Floyd is dead is because Mr. Chauvin’s heart was too small.”


My thoughts...
When courts allow insults, it takes away from reason.
I've been on a jury where I've seen emotion & prejudice
sway jurors. Such tactics are wrong.

 

[We Never Know]

Based upon what I've seen & read, the verdicts are reasonable.
But I still find the system highly flawed.
Ref....
BREAKING: Derek Chauvin Guilty On All 3 Counts In George Floyd's Death
Excerpted (with underlining added)....
While Nelson’s summation was lengthy, it was also complex. And that may be why Blackwell came back with this statement in his rebuttal argument. He said this case is not that complicated and that, in the state’s view, Chauvin caused Floyd’s death.
The line he left the jury with was this: “You were told, for example, that Mr. Floyd died because his heart was too big. You heard that testimony. And now having seen all the evidence, having heard all the evidence, you know the truth. And the truth of the matter is that the reason George Floyd is dead is because Mr. Chauvin’s heart was too small.”


My thoughts...
When courts allow insults, it takes away from reason.
I've been on a jury where I've seen emption & prejudice
sway jurors. Such tactics are wrong.

There were several things said that Nelson said should fall under prosecutorial misconduct.

 

[Revoltingest]

There were several things said that Nelson said should fall under prosecutorial misconduct.

Tell me....I'm too lazy to look.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Based upon what I've seen & read, the verdicts are reasonable.
But I still find the system highly flawed.
Ref....
BREAKING: Derek Chauvin Guilty On All 3 Counts In George Floyd's Death
Excerpted (with underlining added)....
While Nelson’s summation was lengthy, it was also complex. And that may be why Blackwell came back with this statement in his rebuttal argument. He said this case is not that complicated and that, in the state’s view, Chauvin caused Floyd’s death.
The line he left the jury with was this: “You were told, for example, that Mr. Floyd died because his heart was too big. You heard that testimony. And now having seen all the evidence, having heard all the evidence, you know the truth. And the truth of the matter is that the reason George Floyd is dead is because Mr. Chauvin’s heart was too small.”


My thoughts...
When courts allow insults, it takes away from reason.
I've been on a jury where I've seen emption & prejudice
sway jurors. Such tactics are wrong.

It works on "Law and Order"

I do agree that appeals to emotion should not be allowed in courts of law. But currently both sides use them. Unfortunately they do open the door to appeals when they are used. I t would be better if they were limited to arguing the merits of the case. Save the appeals to emotion for the editorials and other sources.

 

[We Never Know]

Tell me....I'm too lazy to look.

It was in the arguements to the judge yesterday after closing to the jury.

@Revoltingest this link has some of it.

Chauvin defense attorney asks for a mistrial, citing prosecutorial misconduct, publicity

 

[Harel13]

“You were told, for example, that Mr. Floyd died because his heart was too big. You heard that testimony. And now having seen all the evidence, having heard all the evidence, you know the truth. And the truth of the matter is that the reason George Floyd is dead is because Mr. Chauvin’s heart was too small.”

Wat.

 

[Revoltingest]

Wat.

I know.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It was in the arguements to the judge yesterday after closing to the jury.

@Revoltingest this link has some of it.

Chauvin defense attorney asks for a mistrial, citing prosecutorial misconduct, publicity

Filing for a mistrial is SOP in a case like this. If there was a guilty plea there was probably going to be one. Now I am far from being a legal expert. So please do not take this as an attempt of statement of fact, but I wonder if the appeals court will base a decision on their view of Chauvin's guilt or innocence.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

As always, with me, this fills with a lot of conflicted feelings.

• I know it is important that justice be done, and be seen to be done.
• I accept that it is quite possible that Chauvin truly believes that he was acting appropriately in the situation -- and yet I know that most of us feel that way, even though if we could bring ourselves to be truly objective, we might know that we are not.
• Then I feel that this is a man who's life is ruined. Yes, George Floyd's life was terminated by him, but the ruination of Derek Chauvin's life won't add to the overall good of the world.

I go through this every time. I just don't seem to have any taste at all for "revenge."

 

[Revoltingest]

As always, with me, this fills with a lot of conflicted feelings.

• I know it is important that justice be done, and be seen to be done.
• I accept that it is quite possible that Chauvin truly believes that he was acting appropriately in the situation -- and yet I know that most of us feel that way, even though if we could bring ourselves to be truly objective, we might know that we are not.
• Then I feel that this is a man who's life is ruined. Yes, George Floyd's life was terminated by him, but the ruination of Derek Chauvin's life won't add to the overall good of the world.

I go through this every time. I just don't seem to have any taste at all for "revenge."

The good it might add to the country is that
there are bad consequences for such conduct.
This could improve policing.

 

[Deeje]

Based upon what I've seen & read, the verdicts are reasonable.
But I still find the system highly flawed.
Ref....
BREAKING: Derek Chauvin Guilty On All 3 Counts In George Floyd's Death
Excerpted (with underlining added)....
While Nelson’s summation was lengthy, it was also complex. And that may be why Blackwell came back with this statement in his rebuttal argument. He said this case is not that complicated and that, in the state’s view, Chauvin caused Floyd’s death.
The line he left the jury with was this: “You were told, for example, that Mr. Floyd died because his heart was too big. You heard that testimony. And now having seen all the evidence, having heard all the evidence, you know the truth. And the truth of the matter is that the reason George Floyd is dead is because Mr. Chauvin’s heart was too small.”


My thoughts...
When courts allow insults, it takes away from reason.
I've been on a jury where I've seen emotion & prejudice
sway jurors. Such tactics are wrong.

Yep, appeals to emotion have nothing to do with justice being served. Mercy under the law is offered only to those where extenuating circumstances were in evidence. Where were the extenuating circumstances in this case? We all saw the video and there was no compassion whatsoever in the police officer’s eyes, despite the appeals of onlookers.

OTOH, I guess we can understand why law enforcement personnel can become devoid of tender feelings when constantly dealing with chronic law breakers on a regular basis....we are all human after all......it’s an imperfect world.

 

[sun rise]

This could improve policing.

I hope so. It certainly sends a message about egregious behavior that goes way beyond police rules of engagement.

 

[We Never Know]

Filing for a mistrial is SOP in a case like this. If there was a guilty plea there was probably going to be one. Now I am far from being a legal expert. So please do not take this as an attempt of

Filing for a mistrial is SOP in a case like this. If there was a guilty plea there was probably going to be one. Now I am far from being a legal expert. So please do not take this as an attempt of statement of fact, but I wonder if the appeals court will base a decision on their view of Chauvin's guilt or innocence.

I would say a mistrial is out the window. Next step will be appeal.

 

[Stevicus]

Now if the riot's start because that's just what some want to do and have been waiting for. That will ruin the justice

I agree that justice has been served, although the link said they expect him to be sentenced in about 8 weeks. So, depending on what kind of sentence he gets, that might also trigger rioting (if the sentence is too light).

 

[sun rise]

OTOH, I guess we can understand why law enforcement personnel can become devoid of tender feelings when constantly dealing with chronic law breakers on a regular basis....we are all human after all......it’s an imperfect world.

That's one reason why so many want to substitute mental health professionals for police for many incidents. A criminal and someone who is mentally ill can both act the same with very different motivations.

 

[We Never Know]

I agree that justice has been served, although the link said they expect him to be sentenced in about 8 weeks. So, depending on what kind of sentence he gets, that might also trigger rioting (if the sentence is too light).

I agree