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Chauvin verdict is in. Guilty!!

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
I agree that justice has been served, although the link said they expect him to be sentenced in about 8 weeks. So, depending on what kind of sentence he gets, that might also trigger rioting (if the sentence is too light).

Do you or does anyone know the minimum sentences in that jurisdiction?
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
The good it might add to the country is that
there are bad consequences for such conduct.
This could improve policing.
A good point, I agree. That would be a good outcome.

Stil, my feelings highlight again for me how hard it is to not have dogmatic answers to anything at all. For the atheist, the humanist, the free-thinker and what-have-you, every such situation requires us to search our own souls. Maybe that's why we're in the minority -- it's hard work!
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Do you or does anyone know the minimum sentences in that jurisdiction?
I found part of the answer EXPLAINER: What are charges against Chauvin in Floyd death?

But under Minnesota sentencing guidelines, for a person with no criminal history, each murder charge carries a presumptive sentence of 12 1/2 years in prison, while manslaughter has a presumptive sentence of four years.

Prosecutors are seeking a sentence that goes above the guideline range. They cited several aggravating factors, including that Floyd was particularly vulnerable, that Chauvin was a uniformed police officer acting in a position of authority, and his alleged crime was witnessed by multiple children — including a 9-year-old girl who testified that watching the restraint made her “sad and kind of mad."

Chauvin has waived his right to have a jury decide if aggravating factors exist. So if he is convicted, Judge Peter Cahill will make that decision and would sentence Chauvin at a later date. In Minnesota, defendants typically serve two-thirds of their penalty in prison, with the rest on parole.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Do you or does anyone know the minimum sentences in that jurisdiction?

What’s the maximum penalty that Derek Chauvin could face? How much prison time could Chauvin get? That’s what many people are wondering now that a jury has reached a verdict in the trial of the former Minneapolis, Minnesota, police officer.

The jury found Chauvin guilty on all three counts, which means he will face the maximum penalty for the most severe charge, second-degree unintentional murder. That charge has a maximum penalty of 40 years, but the sentencing guidelines recommend 12.5 years, according to Bloomberg Law. The judge will be asked to decide whether there are aggravating factors, including that the death occurred in front of a child. The guidelines also look at such things as remorse and whether he has a prior record, which he doesn’t.

Derek Chauvin Sentence: How Much Prison Time Could He Get? | Heavy.com
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
I agree that justice has been served, although the link said they expect him to be sentenced in about 8 weeks. So, depending on what kind of sentence he gets, that might also trigger rioting (if the sentence is too light).
And it might be light. Minnesota's sentencing rules include looking at previous convictions, and in Chauvin's case, there are none.

Yes, I truly think he did wrong -- hell, I was watching live while it was going on, and in the moment, I hated him. But I wouldn't like to see him (or anybody else) made the scape-goat for all the ills foist upon minority communities by police and (often) the rest of us.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
I presume people will be happy if he's sentenced according to the sentencing guidelines - 29 years (and up if the judge decides on aggravating factors).
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
What’s the maximum penalty that Derek Chauvin could face? How much prison time could Chauvin get? That’s what many people are wondering now that a jury has reached a verdict in the trial of the former Minneapolis, Minnesota, police officer.

The jury found Chauvin guilty on all three counts, which means he will face the maximum penalty for the most severe charge, second-degree unintentional murder. That charge has a maximum penalty of 40 years, but the sentencing guidelines recommend 12.5 years, according to Bloomberg Law. The judge will be asked to decide whether there are aggravating factors, including that the death occurred in front of a child. The guidelines also look at such things as remorse and whether he has a prior record, which he doesn’t.

Derek Chauvin Sentence: How Much Prison Time Could He Get? | Heavy.com
Now that will decide if justice is served or not.

I would recommend store owners to keep the windows boarded up until then.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
The amount he gets at sentencing will decide if justice was served and could produce many riots.
I think his time in prison will be served with the same kind of attitude shown towards him as he had towards other offenders. Poetic justice perhaps? I would not like to be him in that situation. I imagine jail would be a living nightmare for someone in his position.

If you become what you hate, what is the point of staying in the job? :shrug:
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
A good point, I agree. That would be a good outcome.

Stil, my feelings highlight again for me how hard it is to not have dogmatic answers to anything at all. For the atheist, the humanist, the free-thinker and what-have-you, every such situation requires us to search our own souls. Maybe that's why we're in the minority -- it's hard work!
Thoughtful intelligent informed consideration is indeed work.
So I avoid it as much as possible.
 
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