Check Out Where Your State Ranks Educationwise

[Revoltingest]

Good old Michiganistan....high in taxes...low in education.

Hmmm....I should move to Colorado.
Low tax burden with better education.

And better snowboarding.
Alas, it doesn't have any great engine shows.

 

[Revoltingest]

Just because you can be dumb with your money doesnt mean you get to expect others to carelessly throw away their money, or use it when they shouldn't be expected to.
And, for your information, there is no state where the average teacher salary is at least $50,000/year - lots of states average isn't even $40,000.

There's much local variation though.
Michiganistan is a big state with poorer rural areas....& poorer urban areas.
But Ann Arbor pays its teachers very well, & we have great educational
opportunities, albeit at very high cost (high property taxes & high UofM
tuition.)

 

[Audie]

True, but red states are known for taking chainsaws to education budgets, with Republicans being known to some times downplay the importance of an education, sometimes even discouraging a higher education.

That is the fundamentalist subset among the
Republicans.

 

[Audie]

Hmmm....I should move to Colorado.
Low tax burden with better education.

And better snowboarding.
Alas, it doesn't have any great engine shows.

Ifn ya like education so much, move to Japan,
Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong or Singapore.

 

[metis]

Politics seems to matter. Overall, the more liberal states tend to be clustered in the top half of the rankings, and the more conservatives states tend to be clustered in the bottom half of the rankings -- rather than being randomly distributed.

That's because the Republican leaders in the red states want to keep their constituents ignorant so they'll remain Republicans.

 

[Salvador]

Just because you can be dumb with your money doesnt mean you get to expect others to carelessly throw away their money, or use it when they shouldn't be expected to.
And, for your information, there is no state where the average teacher salary is at least $50,000/year - lots of states average isn't even $40,000.

There doesn't seem to be much education regarding personal finance or fiscal responsibility.. Sadly, our nation's education system often encourages students to take on too much debt for college.

 

[metis]

In conclusion, throwing money at education does not guarantee better results for American students.

It's not a guarantee, granted, but we tend to get what we are willing to pay for.

Here in Michigan, the creation of private charter schools and Republican cuts have lowered our standards according to a study based on test results reported in the Detroit Free Press. This also has been seen in some of the Scandinavian countries that have lowered their support for charter schools, finding them all too often teaching to the test and also misrepresenting actual results.

 

[Revoltingest]

Ifn ya like education so much, move to Japan,
Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong or Singapore.

I'm over-edumacated already.
So no need to move to a s***hole country.

 

[Salvador]

That's because the Republican leaders in the red states want to keep their constituents ignorant so they'll remain Republicans.

Blue states want to excessively spend tax payer dollars on public education in order to keep their special interest constituents happy...i.e. teacher unions, highly paid college professors or the N.E.A.

 

[Woberts]

None of that has ever been fair for over 20 years. South has half the blacks still. Ever since the federalist took away segregation, we've resorted to the ancient law of the land, sho ram bo, including large sticks, until such time I suppose some Federal Court c ome says we can't.

Quite telling.

 

[Revoltingest]

Blue states want to excessively spend tax payer dollars on public education in order to keep their special interest constituents happy...i.e. teacher unions, highly paid college professors or the N.E.A.

There's a problem....as we observe MI's heavy
tax burden for poorer results, while CO has
better education with a lower tax burden.

 

[metis]

Sadly, our nation's education system often encourages students to take on too much debt for college.

That's true, but what also is true is that even though companies/corporations and their owners/CEO's can declare bankruptcy, our students can't with their educational debts.

 

[Salvador]

It's not a guarantee, granted, but we tend to get what we are willing to pay for.

Here in Michigan, the creation of private charter schools and Republican cuts have lowered our standards according to a study based on test results reported in the Detroit Free Press. This also has been seen in some of the Scandinavian countries that have lowered their support for charter schools, finding them all too often teaching to the test and also misrepresenting actual results.

"We're putting money into schools, and educators know this, we're saying you're 100 percent responsible for educating your kids but you can only control 30 percent. They all know this. The answer is to put money directly into the families and neighborhoods to give our kids a chance to learn and our teachers a chance to teach." -

Andrew Yang, American entrepreneur and 2020 Democratic Presidential Candidate

 

[metis]

Blue states want to excessively spend tax payer dollars on public education in order to keep their special interest constituents happy...i.e. teacher unions, highly paid college professors or the N.E.A.

Nice fabrication, but the simple fact is that the blue states are willing to pay more on the average, and it is the taxpayers who vote that in, as the representatives are not dictators.

Again, we tend to get what we are willing to pay for. However, I'm certainly not if favor of the status quo, thus I do believe that some significant changes need to be made.

 

[metis]

"We're putting money into schools, and educators know this, we're saying you're 100 percent responsible for educating your kids but you can only control 30 percent. They all know this. The answer is to put money directly into the families and neighborhoods to give our kids a chance to learn and our teachers a chance to teach." -

Andrew Yang, American entrepreneur and 2020 Democratic Presidential Candidate

How does the above supposedly go against what I posted? Anyone who been involved in education (me for 36 years) well knows that the learning process starts at home and is more influenced by what takes place at home more than any other single factor. IOW, it's "attitude" that more the driving force, and that starts with Mom & Dad's encouragement and work with Junior.

 

[Salvador]

That's true, but what also is true is that even though companies/corporations and their owners/CEO's can declare bankruptcy, our students can't with their educational debts.

That's not always the case, student loans can be discharged in some cases of bankruptcy.

 

[Audie]

I'm over-edumacated already.
So no need to move to a s***hole country.

Come now revrev, you are making no sense
even for you.

 

[metis]

Quite telling.

Ya, you caught that too.

 

[Revoltingest]

Come now revrev, you are making no sense
even for you.

I'd hoped to trigger a more funtastic response than that.

 

[metis]

That's not always the case, student loans can be discharged in some cases of bankruptcy.

It's almost always the case, and this has been reported on a great deal over the last several years in the news.