Heyo
Veteran Member
Step 1: attack Taiwan
Step 2: ???
Step 3: profit!
That's a pipe dream, not a plan.
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China Prepares To Invade Taiwan
- Thread starter Revoltingest
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Step 2: ???
Step 3: profit!
That's a pipe dream, not a plan.
In this case, de facto is overwhelmingly reality.
De juro is a foreign policy fiction designed to
keep Xi from getting the vapors.
One man's plan is another's pipe dream.
It's all about intent.
oh ok. No point playing if you're gonna keep moving the goal posts. I suggest you google something like "wars in Europe since WW2".
Edit...
This should've been in a different forum.
Oh, well....might as well leave it here.
It got frubed.
This should've been in a different forum.
Oh, well....might as well leave it here.
It got frubed.
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Based upon that ROC while being nowhere near to controlling mainland Chinese property is dangerously close to achieving de jure recognition of sovereignty of the island where it exists. It explains to me why China is pushing so hard right now to gain control of the island state of Taiwan.
PRC maintains de jure sovereignty through loans to smaller states around the world, attaching strings to those loans when they go into default. That could change if China defaults (which it will default and is defaulting on its own loans), and then it is in danger of losing the island which wants to be separate. China is losing its financial strength, entering into difficult times. If it loses de jure sovereignty over that island, it loses the island permanently. So if PRC does nothing and begins losing its influence around the world then ROC may be able to gain support for its dejure sovereignty.
Now USA involvement starts to become more interesting, as do N Korea's missile flyovers of Japan. The flyovers test our treaty with Japan. Japan wants to defend but is held back by treaty.
Maybe it is like a three gun standoff: If China (PRC) attacks Taiwan (ROC), then the US allies can consider this provocative enough to remove the Kims from power in N. Korea and take away their nukes. But if Japan strikes N. Korea first then China con consider it provocation enough to take Taiwan.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Either that or the Fermi Paradox visits earth.
Nope. One word, demographics. China is getting old before it has developed. Its average age is already higher than in the U.S. China is running out of people. Its population is already shrinking. (It officially says it hasn't yet but frankly it is lying) over the next decade over 300,000,000 people will leave its workforce and retire. But there aren't that many younger replacements. The number of working aged people is shrinking fast. Meanwhile its number of old people is ballooning. Fast. Increased social costs, reduced income, major disaster. Already the cost of labor in China is higher than in other countries such as Vietnam. China is already experiencing a real estate speculation bubble that is sending shock waves through its economy. There are also massive lockdowns due to Covid. Foreign investors are pulling out of China and trading partners are scrambling to find alternate sources for supply chains.
China’s population is about to shrink for the first time since the great famine struck 60 years ago. Here’s what it means for the world
Ponder This
Well-Known Member
A truth is unspoken, but a lie is loudly announced.
President Xi was too vocal in his assertions over Taiwan.
The result is that the claim over Taiwan has been made weak by President Xi.
The symptom betrays the cause.
The invasion of Taiwan airspace occurs because of the fear of losing control of Taiwan.
This, in turn, drives Taiwan further away from China.
Maybe 10 or 20 years ago, China could've conquered Taiwan. Now it could be as foolish as Putin's invasion of Ukraine. Taiwan would receive all sorts of support. Maybe they shouldn't have let Putin beta test invasion? On the other hand, how could they have known it would go so badly for Russia?
lukethethird
unknown member
China Prepares To Invade Taiwan
Blah blah blah. Mainstream media, blah blah blah. It couldn't be the US provoking China to invade Taiwan, no never, don't be silly.
Father Heathen
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Father Heathen
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lukethethird
unknown member
Americans pointing fingers at Russia and China as if, and all the while cheerleading for their military industrial complex while being fed narratives by their mainstream media. Talk about comic book ideology, fighting for truth justice and the American way, what a farce.
Wow....In just one sentence, we have whataboutism and a conspiracy theory.
To not see China's massive military build-up, conquest in Tibet & the S China
Sea,& repeated military exercises near Taiwan would require shade-14 welding
goggles. Why are you carrying China's water?
Wu Wei
ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
lukethethird
unknown member
China's so called "massive military build-up" within China, wow, that sure is something to get worked up about.
Then get un-worked upped about it.
Audie
Veteran Member
Little has changed in 70 plus years.
Taiwan tho in the 80s stopped funding plans to
invade the mainland.
Audie
Veteran Member
It is if you are a citizen of prc.
The military of autocracies is primarily
about domestic control