Christ According To The Mormons

[madhatter85]

There is a difference between "the only christian Faith" and "the one true church."

not when chrisitans claim that Jesus Isn't who he said he was.

 

[Katzpur]

The thing is we identify ourselves As the only chrisitan Faith. all other churches are Trinitarians

That's absolute nonsense! I've never in my life heard a General Authority say that we're the only Christian faith. That's one you're definitely going to have to give us a verbatim quote for. You are misrepresenting everything our leaders have said for generations upon generations.

 

[Melissa G]

You're right. The rest of Christianity should insist to identify with us.

No. I'm serious. Since we are the true church they should try to become as close to us as possible.

*silence*

Chuckle, what an astonishingly arrogant statement, claiming superiority now in every respect. I'm not a Christian any longer, but if I were, I'd hope my Church distanced itself as much as possible from the LDS.

Melissa G

 

[Katzpur]

I'm not a Christian any longer, but if I were, I'd hope my Church distanced itself as much as possible from the LDS.

Congratuations! Your wish has come true!

 

[McBell]

Chuckle, what an astonishingly arrogant statement, claiming superiority now in every respect. I'm not a Christian any longer, but if I were, I'd hope my Church distanced itself as much as possible from the LDS.

Melissa G

It is an arrogant statement.
However, it falls into line with the likes of Peter S Ruckman, Texxe Marres, Bin Laden, etc.

however, to pass judgment on a group because of the words/actions/beliefs of a few is also rather arrogant.

 

[Katzpur]

You're right. The rest of Christianity should insist to identify with us.
No. I'm serious. Since we are the true church they should try to become as close to us as possible.

It is an arrogant statement.
However, it falls into line with the likes of Peter S Ruckman, Texxe Marres, Bin Laden, etc.

First off, I think Sola'lor's statement was made partially tongue in cheek. When you get right down to it, it would be nuts for any other Christian denomination to want to become as close (doctrinally speaking) to us as possible -- or for us to want to become as close to them as possible. Why should anyone want to identify with something they do not accept as true? To the extent that other Christian denominations teach the truth, (that Jesus is the Christ and the Son of God, that we could not be forgiven of our sins without Him, and that God loves each of us and wants us to return to Him), I have no problem identifying with them. To the extent that they believe that we teach the truth, they probably have no problem identifying with us either. What I see as a problem is the refusal (on both sides) to admit that, in spite of our differences, we also have a lot in common.

however, to pass judgment on a group because of the words/actions/beliefs of a few is also rather arrogant.

I think you're right about that, too. There are a couple of pretty arrogant Latter-day Saints on RF, but I don't believe they are representative of members of the Church as a whole.

 

[FFH]

We seriously need to start an "anything goes LDS thread".

Get a "thread"

 

[Sola'lor]

First off, I think Sola'lor's statement was made partially tongue in cheek. When you get right down to it, it would be nuts for any other Christian denomination to want to become as close (doctrinally speaking) to us as possible -- or for us to want to become as close to them as possible. Why should anyone want to identify with something they do not accept as true? To the extent that other Christian denominations teach the truth, (that Jesus is the Christ and the Son of God, that we could not be forgiven of our sins without Him, and that God loves each of us and wants us to return to Him), I have no problem identifying with them. To the extent that they believe that we teach the truth, they probably have no problem identifying with us either. What I see as a problem is the refusal (on both sides) to admit that, in spite of our differences, we also have a lot in common.

I think you're right about that, too. There are a couple of pretty arrogant Latter-day Saints on RF, but I don't believe they are representative of members of the Church as a whole.

You're right I wasn't being really serious. I wouldn't ever tell anybody that they need to agree with us because we view ourselves to be the true church.

I think that many may misinterpret our effort to be seen as Chirstian as an effort to be with mainstream christianity. We are still fighting the battle of trying to be seen as Christians. So ofcourse we want to identify with other Christian religions. And say hey where christians just like you guys are.

 

[Vasilisa Jade]

not when chrisitans claim that Jesus Isn't who he said he was.

You know you are playing the same game at the other christian variations that they play at us. There is no literal definition of a christian. It is all just opinion (I get to use my new word:bounce) and hubris.

I grew up with and was introduced to the church by liberal christians. That is why I loved it so much. It lacked the rigidity of the others. After a while though I realized there are three different types, as with any church: the rigid, the liberal, and the slackers.

 

[nutshell]

Hmmm....makes me wonder: Am I a liberal or a slacker?

 

[Katzpur]

Hmmm....makes me wonder: Am I a liberal or a slacker?

Did you ever see this thread: Mormons -- Only 5 Kinds?

 

[Scott C.]

I think that many may misinterpret our effort to be seen as Chirstian as an effort to be with mainstream christianity. We are still fighting the battle of trying to be seen as Christians. So ofcourse we want to identify with other Christian religions. And say hey where christians just like you guys are.

There is clearly a gap between what LDS and other Christians believe regarding the nature of the Godhead, the necessity of Priesthood, what is the New Testament church, what is the relationship between God and man, the eternal destiny of man, and more. Yet, despite the gaps, I still accept those who do not see it my way as Christians. I honestly don't understand why some other Christians do not give me the same benefit of the doubt, despite our differences.

 

[Francine]

There is clearly a gap between what LDS and other Christians believe regarding the nature of the Godhead, the necessity of Priesthood, what is the New Testament church, what is the relationship between God and man, the eternal destiny of man, and more. Yet, despite the gaps, I still accept those who do not see it my way as Christians. I honestly don't understand why some other Christians do not give me the same benefit of the doubt, despite our differences.

It is because the differences are so profound that it can only be said that Mormons and Catholics worship two different Creators, have two different Saviors, are animated by two different Spirits.

 

[Francine]

Hmmm....makes me wonder: Am I a liberal or a slacker?

A slackeral?

 

[McBell]

A slackeral?

Liblacker?

 

[Scott C.]

It is because the differences are so profound that it can only be said that Mormons and Catholics worship two different Creators, have two different Saviors, are animated by two different Spirits.

When you kneel down to pray to God and imagine Him in a Trinitarian way, I still believe that God hears and answers your prayers, even though He is not Trinitarian. We pray to the same God, even if we see His attributes differently. I don't believe God rejects the worship of those who worship Him with some false ideas concerning His nature. The God who I worship would not do that. So, we don't worship a different God or Savior. We worship the same God and Savior, but we have different ideas of what He/They are like.

 

[Francine]

So, we don't worship a different God or Savior. We worship the same God and Savior, but we have different ideas of what He/They are like.

I must have gotten my idea of another Christ and another Spirit from reading Second Corinthians, one of the great overlooked epistles.

2 Cor 11:[3] But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. [4] For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

 

[athanasius]

I must have gotten my idea of another Christ and another Spirit from reading Second Corinthians, one of the great overlooked epistles.

2 Cor 11:[3] But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. [4] For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

Excellent Point! Great quote!:yes:

 

[Scott C.]

I must have gotten my idea of another Christ and another Spirit from reading Second Corinthians, one of the great overlooked epistles.

2 Cor 11:[3] But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. [4] For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

If I interpret that scripture the same way as you do, I'm forced to believe that Catholics worship the wrong God. I prefer to believe they worship the true God, with some incorrect notions. Maybe I'm too liberal.

 

[athanasius]

Jesus is either The one and only God, second person for the blessed Trinity or he is "A" God, part of a tritheism(an acneint heresy). The concept of trinity and the concept of polytheism are two different concepts. There are two different Christs being spoken of here and only one of them can be correct. So yes LDS and Catholics worship two different Gods. LDS worship several, Catholics worship 1. We all have the same God(God created all of us and hear us) but we do not all worship the same God or the correct God, The true Jesus.