Christ According To The Mormons

[Scott C.]

Jesus is either The one and only God, second person for the blessed Trinity or he is "A" God, part of a tritheism(an acneint heresy). The concept of trinity and the concept of polytheism are two different concepts. There are two different Christs being spoken of here and only one of them can be correct. So yes LDS and Catholics worship two different Gods. LDS worship several, Catholics worship 1. We all have the same God(God created all of us and hear us) but we do not all worship the same God or the correct God, The true Jesus.

See my previous post.

 

[Francine]

If I interpret that scripture the same way as you do, I'm forced to believe that Catholics worship the wrong God. I prefer to believe they worship the true God, with some incorrect notions. Maybe I'm too liberal.

That's why the Sacrifice of the Mass is so important to us. From the time that Christ first offered himself on that Thursday afternoon before being betrayed, we have obeyed his command to "do this in memory of me". He would not have issued such a command if we did not have the ability to obey. So from that first celebration of Eucharist to this very day, in every nation on Earth, we "do this". We offer bread and wine that is actually changed into the flesh and blood of our Lord. Only the real heavenly Father, through the agency of the real Holy Spirit, can change the fruit of the earth and work of human hands into the real Jesus Christ.

 

[athanasius]

When you kneel down to pray to God and imagine Him in a Trinitarian way, I still believe that God hears and answers your prayers, even though He is not Trinitarian. We pray to the same God, even if we see His attributes differently. I don't believe God rejects the worship of those who worship Him with some false ideas concerning His nature. The God who I worship would not do that. So, we don't worship a different God or Savior. We worship the same God and Savior, but we have different ideas of what He/They are like.

Here we would disagree. Jesus Christ is truth. He came to teach truth and he gave the Church the power to teach his truth. He revealed to us that he was both God and Man(Hypostatic union), second person for the blessed Trinity. God does care about truth and he really wants you to worship his correct son. Anyone can say they worship Jesus. Many preach false Christ and Jesus warned us about them. The Jw's(Jehovah's Witness) say they are Christian but they maintain that Christ has only a human nature. The problem is Jesus has both a human and a divine nature. So they are not believing in the same God or Jesus as I do. They cannot be called Christian because they do not profess the same Christ as Paul would say. They profess a false Christ and Paul warns us about that in scripture. We need to know the true Jesus is we are going to call ourselves Christians. We need to follow the real Jesus. I could say I bleeive in Jesus but that doens't make me a Christian. I have to beleive in the right Jesus. If I say Jesus's nature is that of a magical donut then I am worshiping a false Christ and I am not a Chrisitan. Likewise, If I say that Jesus is just "a" God, one of many and not The God part of the Trinity then I also beleive in a Jesus who has a different nature. A False Christ. therefore I cannot be called Christian in the formal sense.

 

[Francine]

If I say that Jesus is just "a" God, one of many and not The God part of the Trinity then I also beleive in a Jesus who has a different nature. A False Christ. therefore I cannot be called Christian in the formal sense.

Scott is correct that both Catholics and Mormons have the same Creator, but that should not be construed to mean we worship the same Creator, as you indicate above.

 

[nutshell]

Jesus is either The one and only God, second person for the blessed Trinity or he is "A" God, part of a tritheism(an acneint heresy). The concept of trinity and the concept of polytheism are two different concepts. There are two different Christs being spoken of here and only one of them can be correct. So yes LDS and Catholics worship two different Gods. LDS worship several, Catholics worship 1. We all have the same God(God created all of us and hear us) but we do not all worship the same God or the correct God, The true Jesus.

LDS are monotheistic and worship the true Jesus.

 

[DeepShadow]

The Book of Mormon states (several times) that Christ the Son, and God the Father, and the Holy Ghost are one eternal God. How is that polytheism?

I've heard plenty of Muslims accuse Trinitarians of being polytheists, too.

 

[Francine]

LDS are monotheistic and worship the true Jesus.

Matthew 24

[23] Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. [24] For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

 

[Katzpur]

If I interpret that scripture the same way as you do, I'm forced to believe that Catholics worship the wrong God. I prefer to believe they worship the true God, with some incorrect notions. Maybe I'm too liberal.

I guess I am, too, Scott. When you and I pray, God hears our prayers. When Francine and Athanasius pray, God hears their prayers. There are not two different Gods listening. At any rate, when it comes to judging someone else's heart, I'd rather err on the side of caution.

 

[nutshell]

Matthew 24

[23] Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. [24] For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

I assume you're refering to the false Christ of the Trinitarian.

 

[Francine]

I guess I am, too, Scott. When you and I pray, God hears our prayers. When Francine and Athanasius pray, God hears their prayers. There are not two different Gods listening.

My prayers don't get past the ceiling. I'm a bad'un.

 

[Francine]

I assume you're refering to the false Christ of the Trinitarian.

When you assume, it makes an @SS out of U and ME.

 

[nutshell]

My prayers don't get past the ceiling. I'm a bad'un.

Me too!

 

[Katzpur]

That's why the Sacrifice of the Mass is so important to us.

And who would "us" be referring to, Francine? Would it be athanasius and Francine-the-Taoist, athanasius and Francine-the-renegade-Catholic or athanasius and Francine-the-Roman-Catholic? For someone who doesn't seem to know for sure who she worships, are you really qualified to to tell me, or Scott or Deep Shadow who we worship?

 

[nutshell]

When you assume, it makes an @SS out of U and ME.

You're right.


I know you're refering to the Mormon Jesus, but using a mirror the scripture will magically bounce off and reflect back on you demonstrating the it applies to the Trinitarian jesus.

 

[nutshell]

And who would "us" be referring to, Francine? Would it be athanasius and Francine-the-Taoist, athanasius and Francine-the-renegade-Catholic or athanasius and Francine-the-Roman-Catholic? For someone who doesn't seem to know for sure who she worships, are you really qualified to to tell me, or Scott or Deep Shadow who we worship?

She has always been (at least to me) Warrior Princess!

 

[Francine]

And who would "us" be referring to, Francine? Would it be athanasius and Francine-the-Taoist, athanasius and Francine-the-renegade-Catholic or athanasius and Francine-the-Roman-Catholic? For someone who doesn't seem to know for sure who she worships, are you really qualified to to tell me, or Scott or Deep Shadow who we worship?

This is an extremely unfriendly post from Miss Katzpur, and of course it is the last one I have to read.

 

[nutshell]

This is an extremely unfriendly post from Miss Katzpur, and of course it is the last one I have to read.

I hope you'll keep reading my posts, Francine Warrior Princess. I think I have a crush on you.

 

[Francine]

I hope you'll keep reading my posts, Francine Warrior Princess. I think I have a crush on you.

If we keep things friendly, I think it will work. If not, I am extremely disciplined when it comes to making sure my online experience is a pleasant one for me.

 

[nutshell]

If we keep things friendly, I think it will work. If not, I am extremely disciplined when it comes to making sure my online experience is a pleasant one for me.

As you should be. I will do my best to stay friendly and I offer you my hand in online friendship.

 

[Katzpur]

As you should be. I will do my best to stay friendly and I offer you my hand in online friendship.

Be careful! She bites!