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Christ like

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Going to church isn't Christlike. A lot of sour people attend church.

Living for evangelism, family, work ethic and Christians is quite Christlike.

family, work, friends, and community. i'm only interested in converting people to the golden rule; which seem fundamental to many belief systems.
 

Grandliseur

Well-Known Member
gathering together for mutual encouragement is not what most churches do. there is no genuine communion between those who understand and those who are asking, seeking, and knocking.

most churches have an individual who stands at the head of the congregation and vomits. even in the synagogue jesus responded to questions and vice versa.
Exactly!

The churches of today are not sharing the purpose with the gathering of old.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
It is available to all. He died for everyone sins---For He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world---I Jn 2:2
I must rebuttal

in that hour a Thief was not asking anything we quote of scripture
he did not ask ...even forgiveness

he had resolved to his own death
and did ask only to be remembered

the grace that saves us in found within

that other Thief, worthy of death....
had touched upon that frame of mind that leads to the next life

The response of the Carpenter was not of clemency
it was recognition in the spoken words of the Thief.....
that man beside Him....understood the situation
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Luke 4:16 16 And he came to Naz′a‧reth, where he had been reared; and, according to his custom on the sabbath day, he entered into the synagogue, . . .
Hebrews 10:23-25 . . .. 24 And let us consider one another to incite to love and fine works, 25 not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as YOU behold the day drawing near.​

While I gave you two scriptures that tell us that it is proper for us to assemble together for weekly church activities, personally I do not go to church. The reason is that I have left all churches but not Christ. I cannot go to a church in which I cannot speak out against wrong dogma without getting in trouble.

Jesus taught in the synagogues - but, if I were to go to a church and go up on the podium uninvited teaching about things, perhaps telling them where they are wrong with scriptures, I would be asked to leave and if I didn't police would be called.

So, while I would like to attend church, I find I cannot do so. I did go to a church for about 3 or 4 years trying to fit in. In all those years, none got close to me; though I did my best to be friendly. Now, I go at it alone. Do your best.
depending on which copy you use.....the story I got....

He did speak
and the congregation turned on Him
and took Him by force to a high ledge to throw Him down

He turned on them!
and walked back through the crowd and no one was able to lay hold on Him


not all scripture reports that incident in that way

I see Him as someone of physical strength and technique!
He knew how to handle Himself!

as black belt I have some training as to what it would take
to move through a crowd that would have me dead
I don't have that level of strength and skill

His presence ....in the form of a Man....
would be awesome!

btw...I don't attend congregation for the same reasons you have stated
 

Grandliseur

Well-Known Member
depending on which copy you use.....the story I got....

He did speak
and the congregation turned on Him
and took Him by force to a high ledge to throw Him down

He turned on them!
and walked back through the crowd and no one was able to lay hold on Him


not all scripture reports that incident in that way

I see Him as someone of physical strength and technique!
He knew how to handle Himself!

as black belt I have some training as to what it would take
to move through a crowd that would have me dead
I don't have that level of strength and skill

His presence ....in the form of a Man....
would be awesome!

btw...I don't attend congregation for the same reasons you have stated
While his habit was to attend synagogues, the incident you quote where he walks away without anyone being able to stop him - is actually only understood correctly by few if any.

The reason he could walk away in their midst without being accosted was because it was not his time yet to die. Thus, it was not his prowess, his powers or anything in him; rather, it was not God's will for him to die until it was time. Thus it also is for all the saints. (this subject is difficult due to the many denominations and interpretations)

Of course, he also knew how not to cause trouble for himself that might have been unwanted. There is a scripture that backs my claim up, but it is hard to find, and of course, at the moment I know not where it is.
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
I must rebuttal

in that hour a Thief was not asking anything we quote of scripture
he did not ask ...even forgiveness

he had resolved to his own death
and did ask only to be remembered

the grace that saves us in found within

that other Thief, worthy of death....
had touched upon that frame of mind that leads to the next life

The response of the Carpenter was not of clemency
it was recognition in the spoken words of the Thief.....
that man beside Him....understood the situation

"Today you will be with Me in paradise," is an act of clemency.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
"Today you will be with Me in paradise," is an act of clemency.

some don't have to die physically to lose paradise


Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
some don't have to die physically to lose paradise


Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

But until one dies, they have an opportunity to repent.
 

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
The reason he could walk away in their midst without being accosted was because it was not his time yet to die.
What would it matter?

Of course, he also knew how not to cause trouble for himself that might have been unwanted.
Yes, assault with bullwhips at the Temple, encouraging large groups of desperate people to be around Roman soldiers ... nah, none of that would cause ANY trouble.

I see Him as someone of physical strength and technique!
He knew how to handle Himself!
That'd make a cool anime. :)

Crouching Satan, Hidden Savior :p
 

Grandliseur

Well-Known Member
What would it matter?


Yes, assault with bullwhips at the Temple, encouraging large groups of desperate people to be around Roman soldiers ... nah, none of that would cause ANY trouble.


That'd make a cool anime. :)

Crouching Satan, Hidden Savior :p
You're funny! Did you see that I said "unwanted" - ha ha. As scripture says several times, 'it was not time for him to die yet' - paraphrased.

And, what would it matter? Severely so. If his death had to be at a certain time and place, even occasion, nothing he did prior to that would be permitted by God to cause any derailment of God's plans. Thus, he walked away in the midst of people bent on doing him violence, overturned the tables at the temple, etc.
 

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
family, work, friends, and community. i'm only interested in converting people to the golden rule; which seem fundamental to many belief systems.

Golden Rule: Like Jesus said. A good thing.

Golden Mean: Proof of a Designer.

GoldenEye: James Bond movie. Pierce Brosnan, Famke Janssen. Debuted 1995.
 
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