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Christian Apologetics

Cephus

Relentlessly Rational
Yes. You have blind faith in the system and it's doctors. I choose blind faith in The God Who Is Love. Tell me why your blind faith is better than mine.

Because our system actually works. Funny how blind faith in imaginary friends produces no demonstrable positive results above and beyond chance.
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
Yes. You have blind faith in the system and it's doctors. I choose blind faith in The God Who Is Love. Tell me why your blind faith is better than mine.

You must be confusing me for soembody else. Please take the time to re-read recent posts.

No, I have no blind faith in the system or it's doctors.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Because our system actually works. Funny how blind faith in imaginary friends produces no demonstrable positive results above and beyond chance.
"Our system works"? Hahahahahahahahahahaa

Some people believing they are children of God Who is Love reflect love for the reason they are children of Love. You say people who don't believe in God do good works and people who do believe in God don't. Prove it!
 

Cephus

Relentlessly Rational
"Our system works"? Hahahahahahahahahahaa

Some people believing they are children of God Who is Love reflect love for the reason they are children of Love. You say people who don't believe in God do good works and people who do believe in God don't. Prove it!

Yes, medical science works, it demonstrably cures people from real diseases and as science has advanced, people have lived longer, healthier lives overall. It works.

Belief in God does not. There is no demonstrable evidence that God is love or anything else but imaginary. I haven't said any of the things you just said that I did, please quote where I said it or admit you lied.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Yes, medical science works, it demonstrably cures people from real diseases and as science has advanced, people have lived longer, healthier lives overall. It works.

Belief in God does not. There is no demonstrable evidence that God is love or anything else but imaginary. I haven't said any of the things you just said that I did, please quote where I said it or admit you lied.
Is there no evidence that people's lives have been turned around after their confessing Jesus? Mine did. What about all the hospitals put up in Jesus' name? What about God fearing people who have suffered tribulation going to remote places facing danger to help people in Jesus' name?

Do you Mr. Rogers would be the man we know if not for Jesus?
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
Wrong poster. Sorry. I do not trust medical professionals about everything. Do you?

We are talking about FAITH, not trust ok? As in the apprehension of things unseen. Look in your dictionary for the meaning of the word 'faith' in the context of RELIGION.
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
Is there no evidence that people's lives have been turned around after their confessing Jesus? Mine did. What about all the hospitals put up in Jesus' name? What about God fearing people who have suffered tribulation going to remote places facing danger to help people in Jesus' name?

What about them? None of that is evidence for the existence of a god.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
So how could you ask if i have 'belief and trust in god' in the medical proffesion? Please think through your comments harder.
Faith is more than in God. I think I am sure about that. Faith in doctors is a real thing. Isn't it? The word in the post to focus on is "trust".
 

Cephus

Relentlessly Rational
Is there no evidence that people's lives have been turned around after their confessing Jesus? Mine did. What about all the hospitals put up in Jesus' name? What about God fearing people who have suffered tribulation going to remote places facing danger to help people in Jesus' name?

Do you Mr. Rogers would be the man we know if not for Jesus?

What, dead? To be honest, there are tons of people who do good works and have no religious beliefs and tons who do horrible things and are religious. This reminds me of the quote by Steven Weinberg that says "With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil — that takes religion." Likewise, there are tons of people whose lives have turned around without Jesus, tons of non-religious hospitals, etc. You pretend that any of these organizations cannot work without religion when we both know that's not true.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
What, dead? To be honest, there are tons of people who do good works and have no religious beliefs and tons who do horrible things and are religious. This reminds me of the quote by Steven Weinberg that says "With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil — that takes religion." Likewise, there are tons of people whose lives have turned around without Jesus, tons of non-religious hospitals, etc. You pretend that any of these organizations cannot work without religion when we both know that's not true.
You are believing something about my posts that is not true. My response was to this: Faith is good for NOTHING. I believe the first schools and hospitals were Christian establishments but outhouse isn't here to check me.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
You are believing something about my posts that is not true. My response was to this: Faith is good for NOTHING. I believe the first schools and hospitals were Christian establishments but outhouse isn't here to check me.
The YMCA is a Christian establishment. Christmas is a Christian holiday which sponsers good will. These examples are not to prove God exists. They are to prove faith is a good thing.

Go ahead and prove without Christ the hospitals, schools and orphanages raised for the love of Jesus would have sprung up without Jesus.
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
Faith is more than in God. I think I am sure about that. Faith in doctors is a real thing. Isn't it?

No. Medicine is evidential, not faith based (as I have said to you before)
The word in the post to focus on is "trust".

If you mean 'trust', why us the word 'faith'? Are you seriously pretending not to know what the biblical meaning of 'faith' is? I don't want to misjudge you - so if you are honestly not aware of what the word 'faith' means in Christian theology, then please look it up. If you are aware, why are you being deceptive?
 
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