Christian denial of the threat of nuclear war

[Estro Felino]

Yah, but that really doesn't work as "666" must have been known by the time of its writing, and Caesar Nero fits the description and the numbers to a T.

This would confirm that the Pagan Rome is the first Beast.

But we must not forget, that the Neronian Circus where the first Christian martyrdom took place was where the Vatican is...right now.
It was right where the Basilica is.

Vatican stands for both good and evil on this Earth.

The gates of Hell will not prevail.

 

[metis]

But we must not forget, that the Neronian Circus where the first Christian martyrdom took place is where the Vatican is...right now.
It is right where the Basilica is.

Which means nothing. Just because I live on what was Indian land doesn't make me an Indian.

But I am part Amerindian but that's because of my ancestry.

 

[Estro Felino]

Which means nothing. Just because I live on what was Indian land doesn't make me an Indian.

But I am part Amerindian but that's because of my ancestry.

The Vatican has never been really holy.
If we think it is still hostage of the Freemasonry and the international banking élites.
Even in the past...Pope Borgia and others...

Christianity is other. Other than the Vatican.

 

[metis]

The Vatican has never been really holy.

Contrary to the belief of many, the word "holy" does not mean nor imply "without sin"-- it basically means "special".

Christianity is other. Other than the Vatican.

Nope. The Catholic Church is the largest Christian denomination worldwide.

 

[Estro Felino]

Contrary to the belief of many, the word "holy" does not mean nor imply "without sin"-- it basically means "special".

Nope. The Catholic Church is the largest Christian denomination worldwide.

It was too by the time of Pope Borgia.
But no good Catholic used to think the Vatican and his king were holy.

 

[Spiderman]

Of course it could happen!

 

[exchemist]

Yah, but I really have no desire to find out either.

Well we all agree about that, for sure.

Here in London I would be fairly confident of being fried. I could go in the cellar if we got 3mins warning (it would take 10 to get to the Underground and there would be a queue.), but then the house would come down on top of me. Still there would be half a camembert and several dozen bottle of Bordeaux to consume in the pitch dark and the dust, before I went..........

My son should be OK in St Andrew's, though.

 

[Wildswanderer]

In this post I'm going to be referring to the Christian Baptist church teachings I grew up around. I recognize that these views do not represent the majority of Christianity, but it does represent the majority of Christians I know.

The Pastor says that nuclear war cannot and will not happen. "There will be wars and rumours of wars when the end is near" he touts. The Christian view is that humanity cannot destroy itself; Jesus will come back before that happens! So, obviously all out nuclear war won't happen, as that would be the apocalypse, and the apocalypse is only gonna happen a specific way.
Does anyone see the danger in this thinking? As a Christian, I think there is the distinct possibility humanity can wipe itself out before Jesus comes back, at least mostly.
I have a question for you, if you're a Christian. Do you think that all out nuclear war can possibly happen before the rapture and all that? Or do you think God will prevent it?

I'm not sure I believe in the rapture. I definitely believe in the second coming and the judgement though. Some people can find nuclear war in revelation. I hope we are not stupid enough to destroy the planet that way.

 

[Trailblazer]

The Pastor says that nuclear war cannot and will not happen. "There will be wars and rumours of wars when the end is near" he touts. The Christian view is that humanity cannot destroy itself; Jesus will come back before that happens! So, obviously all out nuclear war won't happen, as that would be the apocalypse, and the apocalypse is only gonna happen a specific way.

Your Pastor missed the boat because Christ returned in the 19th century, but he and all the other Christians will continue to wait for the same Jesus to come floating down form the sky in the clouds till hell freezes over.

There is not one single verse in the NT where Jesus promised to return, not one. Rather, Jesus said that His work was finished her and He is no more in the world. What about the words 'no more' do Christians not understand?

John 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

John 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.

Does anyone see the danger in this thinking? As a Christian, I think there is the distinct possibility humanity can wipe itself out before Jesus comes back, at least mostly.

There is a huge danger in this kind of thinking since Jesus is NOT coming back, ever.
The belief that Jesus is coming back to save the world is the most dangerous belief ever because it leads to complete complacency about the problems we have in the world.... Jesus is coming back and He will fix everything. Jesus never promised that He was going to do that so it is false belief.

 

[robocop (actually)]

In this post I'm going to be referring to the Christian Baptist church teachings I grew up around. I recognize that these views do not represent the majority of Christianity, but it does represent the majority of Christians I know.

The Pastor says that nuclear war cannot and will not happen. "There will be wars and rumours of wars when the end is near" he touts. The Christian view is that humanity cannot destroy itself; Jesus will come back before that happens! So, obviously all out nuclear war won't happen, as that would be the apocalypse, and the apocalypse is only gonna happen a specific way.
Does anyone see the danger in this thinking? As a Christian, I think there is the distinct possibility humanity can wipe itself out before Jesus comes back, at least mostly.
I have a question for you, if you're a Christian. Do you think that all out nuclear war can possibly happen before the rapture and all that? Or do you think God will prevent it?

The Bible says multiple times that, "The elements will melt with a fervent heat."
That could be nuclear war or global warming.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

In this post I'm going to be referring to the Christian Baptist church teachings I grew up around. I recognize that these views do not represent the majority of Christianity, but it does represent the majority of Christians I know.
The Pastor says that nuclear war cannot and will not happen................
Does anyone see the danger in this thinking? As a Christian, I think there is the distinct possibility humanity can wipe itself out before Jesus comes back, at least mostly.
I have a question for you, if you're a Christian. Do you think that all out nuclear war can possibly happen before the rapture and all that? Or do you think God will prevent it?

First of all, it is Not rapture but it is resurrection that is what the Bible is speaking about.
Jesus said ' just as the days of Noah were '. No rapture in Noah's day. - Matthew 24:37
No, humanity will Not wipe itself out before Jesus comes ! - Revelation 22:20
Jesus comes to bring ' healing ' to earth's nations - Revelation 22:2
However, as Matthew 24:22 says: unless the days were cut short, No flesh would be saved;.......
'Sword-like executional words from Jesus' mouth' will rid the Earth of the wicked - Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-15

 

[URAVIP2ME]

The Bible says multiple times that, "The elements will melt with a fervent heat." That could be nuclear war or global warming.

Bible writers did Not have the Periodic Table back then ( elements ) so it would be the base elementary things of the world exposed and destroyed as something would be destroyed by melting heat.
The wicked will be 'destroyed forever' - Psalms 92:7; Psalms 104:35; Proverbs 2:21-22

 

[robocop (actually)]

Bible writers did Not have the Periodic Table back then ( elements ) so it would be the base elementary things of the world exposed and destroyed as something would be destroyed by melting heat.
The wicked will be 'destroyed forever' - Psalm s92:7; Psalms 104:35; Proverbs 2:21-22

They still had a concept of particles, like "Earth wind fire and water."

 

[URAVIP2ME]

I'm not sure I believe in the rapture. I definitely believe in the second coming and the judgement though. Some people can find nuclear war in revelation. I hope we are not stupid enough to destroy the planet that way.

I find 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 is dealing with: resurrection.
Chapter 4 is addressed to Christ's 'brothers' ( the 'brothers' of Matthew 25:40 and Not the sheep or goats ).
Jesus was caught away in the clouds (Acts 1:9) 'caught away' when Jesus was: resurrected.
So, the 'brothers' living (1Thess.4:17) are 'caught up in the clouds' just as Jesus was caught up (resurrected to heaven).
Those' brothers' are like the ones described at Luke 22:28-30; Daniel 7:18.
Those 'brothers' will always be with the Lord, In other words, they will always be in Heaven, No returning to Earth.

Since Earth ' abides forever ' - see Ecclesiastes 1:4 B & Psalms 104:5 - the planet will Not be destroyed.
We do know Jesus educated us to know the days will be cut short so that flesh will be saved - Matthew 24:22; Mark 13:20

 

[Fallen Prophet]

Does anyone see the danger in this thinking?

I literally see zero danger in believing this.

None of these "Christians" are going to have any nuclear launch codes or access to any big red "apocalypse" buttons.

If it turns out that these "Christians" were wrong in their way of thinking - and full-out nuclear war does happen and humanity ends - them believing otherwise today wouldn't have changed anything.

The only way there could be a "danger" in them believing this way is if they themselves decided to launch nukes all willy-nilly because they believed that such an action would never end the world.

So - wherein lies the "danger" in them believing the way they do?

As a Christian, I think there is the distinct possibility humanity can wipe itself out before Jesus comes back, at least mostly.

Then - correct me if I am wrong - but you seem to disregard many "Christian" prophecies concerning the end times.

Are you sure you are a "Christian"?

I have a question for you, if you're a Christian. Do you think that all out nuclear war can possibly happen before the rapture and all that?

As a Christian I see zero biblical evidence of any "rapture-like" event at all.

And I believe that the fact that you believe in any kind of "rapture" event may be evidence that you are not going to the Bible for your information on Christ, His teachings and the words of the Apostles - but you are rather relying on the false interpretation of others.

Or do you think God will prevent it?

I do not believe that God would prevent the possibility - I just don't believe it is likely to happen.

Barring the emergence of SkyNet - of course.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

They still had a concept of particles, like "Earth wind fire and water."

Yes, and often used in a illustrative way.
For example: at Rev. 17:1,15 'water' stands for people ( dried-up spiritually people - Isaiah 57:20)
Sometime in Scripture 'Earth" stands for the planet and sometimes for people.
'Earth continued to be of one language.' We know the planet does Not speak, but people do.
Fire can also purify something, so fire is Not always used in destruction.
The only thing that comes to mind about 'wind' is that Jesus will regulate weather phenomenon - Mark 6:51

 

[F1fan]

I have heard it but, frankly, have not read it. I have read other books.

You're so lucky. I read those books and really thought he knew something. There was a lot of anxiety about nuclear war back in the 80's with Reagan as president.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Yes, and often used in a illustrative way.
For example: at Rev. 17:1,15 'water' stands for people ( dried-up spiritually people - Isaiah 57:20)
Sometime in Scripture 'Earth" stands for the planet and sometimes for people.
'Earth continued to be of one language.' We know the planet does Not speak, but people do.
Fire can also purify something, so fire is Not always used in destruction.
The only thing that comes to mind about 'wind' is that Jesus will regulate weather phenomenon - Mark 6:51

I looked up 'elements' in that verse in strong s concordance.
The physical constituents of the Universe.

 

[rational experiences]

The theme Jesus was reasoned by human life sacrificed by fallout causes taught.

Did you listen to Jesus?

No.

Did you heed your own man's promise of no nuclear science?

No.

Do you listen to humans who teach life is being sacrificed everywhere on earth by nuclear events above us? Caused by dust converting below?

No.

Is your churches man's answer. You didn't listen to Jesus it said. You still don't listen as you didn't listen before a huge earth venting itself occurred.

Says the teaching.

Pre teaching said by men as talked about. Nuclear won't destroy life on earth was the subject that led to Jesus being notified witnessed to earths body changes.

Or don't you know how to read precluded advice as self behaviour warnings?

 

[YoursTrue]

I can confirm that throughout the Catholic world there is a very similar stance.

I don't know about the Vatican. Which by the way does not represent Catholics, fortunately.

I guess another thread might be had as to how the Vatican and the Pope do, or do not connect with Catholics. In other words, the Vatican does not represent Catholics? And I suppose Catholics do not represent the Vatican, is that right?