ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
And yet men aren't presented as sex objects nearly as often as women are.
Do women not like sex?
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Christian Moms Complain About Lack of “Respect and Dignity” in Super Bowl Halftime Show
- Thread starter Skwim
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Do women not like sex?
Good on them, it is time to bring morality back into this world. It only took a few second watch to know it would get turned off on my TV.
I feel very sorry for women (or men) that think this is what they must do to entertain, or it is acceptable in any way to portray themselves in this way by throwing morality out the window.
Yes I see children are corrupted by such uncouth displays of immorality.
Regards Tony
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Men tend to be more visual than women. Talk to a woman about the porn that she likes and see what a man likes.
Because male and female sexuality is very different.
Subduction Zone
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I am sorry but how is that "immoral"?
Skwim
Veteran Member
I'd have to see some figures before I'd agree its endemic, but even if it's just close to being endemic I'd say it's competition. Like it or not, sex sells.
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ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
That's not really an explanation.
If you have to ask that question, I see that is part of the problem. The partition, would most likely state the reasons the mothers gave, so it may be good to have a read.
I see the guidelines they try to impart would be in the Word of God they try to implement in their lives., to which I see is the morality the world needs urgently.
Regards Tony
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
That's also not really an explanation.
Why, when half of the overall market is female, are idealised fantasies for men depicted so much more often than idealised fantasies for women?
As a gay man I'm hardly in a position to quantify, especially not with your vague terms.
If a woman wears really revealing clothing to bar, bounces on the lap of a straight guy, talks about how much fun they'll have later at his place, eats and drinks most of his paycheck, drives herself to his apartment at closing time, then decides she's too tired for sex(but won't leave), and he has sex with her anyway( drunk as he is), is he guilty of rape?
According to U.S. law and social media, he is.
I don't take modern opinions about which sex is rape and which is just irresponsible very seriously.
Tom
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
And you in no way see this as being harmful towards women?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
It looks like one to me. And women, believe it or not, often like to watch other sexy women themselves. Who knows, they may like to keep an eye on the competition.
Because men own most of the media. I also don't see how the Superbowl half-time show was an "idealized fantasy for men". I'm sure just as many women enjoyed it. Most of Shakira and Jennifer Lopez's fanbase would be female. My female friend, whose idea it was to watch it, enjoyed it just as much or even more than me.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Unfortunately that is the world that we live in. As a man one has to know that that may happen. No always means no when it comes to sex.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
Er... They're terms that you used.
Yes.
Because... He very clearly and obviously is?
Like... Having sex with someone AGAINST THEIR WILL is rape. That's what it is. That's the thing it is.
She didn't want sex.
He had sex with her anyway.
He raped her.
He is a rapist.
Is... is this controversial now?
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So, you don't believe it's wrong to force a women who doesn't want to have sex to have sex?
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
"Unfortunately"???
It's "unfortunate" that women can say "no" and expect not to be raped?
Did I just enter the Twilight Zone?
Skwim
Veteran Member
The way you've phrased that it appears you didn't see the show. Is that correct?
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ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
Right. The question is, when the majority of media is controlled by men (including media aimed at women) what effect does this have on the presentation of both men and women, and which group is more likely to be adversely influenced by this?
I've not really specifically mentioned the half-time show as an example. I have no idea if it is - I haven't watched it. I'm just chiming in on a few of the comments that came out of that about general trends in media, vis-a-vis the pressure on female entertainers to be a very specific kind of "attractive/sexy" that is not applied, generally, to male entertainers.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
You do tend to read things into posts that are not in them.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
The post you quoted cited an example of a drunk woman not wanting to have sex with a guy, but the guy "having sex with her anyway" as identified as legal rape, and insinuated that it shouldn't be taken very seriously, and you said "Unfortunately that is the world we live in".
If that's not what you meant, please explain what you meant.