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Christian Moms Complain About Lack of “Respect and Dignity” in Super Bowl Halftime Show

TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
Anybody here see this lack of respect and dignity in the halftime show?

Good on them, it is time to bring morality back into this world. It only took a few second watch to know it would get turned off on my TV.

I feel very sorry for women (or men) that think this is what they must do to entertain, or it is acceptable in any way to portray themselves in this way by throwing morality out the window.

Yes I see children are corrupted by such uncouth displays of immorality.

Regards Tony
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Good on them, it is time to bring morality back into this world. It only took a few second watch to know it would get turned off on my TV.

I feel very sorry for women (or men) that think this is what they must do to entertain, or it is acceptable in any way to portray themselves in this way by throwing morality out the window.

Yes I see children are corrupted by such uncouth displays of immorality.

Regards Tony
I am sorry but how is that "immoral"?
 

TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
I am sorry but how is that "immoral"?

If you have to ask that question, I see that is part of the problem. The partition, would most likely state the reasons the mothers gave, so it may be good to have a read.

I see the guidelines they try to impart would be in the Word of God they try to implement in their lives., to which I see is the morality the world needs urgently.

Regards Tony
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
So, by your estimate, what is the percentage of women who are genuinely victims of sexual abuse and manipulation vs. the percentage who just manipulated men into sex and then "blamed them for responding"?
As a gay man I'm hardly in a position to quantify, especially not with your vague terms.
If a woman wears really revealing clothing to bar, bounces on the lap of a straight guy, talks about how much fun they'll have later at his place, eats and drinks most of his paycheck, drives herself to his apartment at closing time, then decides she's too tired for sex(but won't leave), and he has sex with her anyway( drunk as he is), is he guilty of rape?
According to U.S. law and social media, he is.

I don't take modern opinions about which sex is rape and which is just irresponsible very seriously.
Tom
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
That's also not really an explanation.

Why, when half of the overall market is female, are idealised fantasies for men depicted so much more often than idealised fantasies for women?
Because men own most of the media. I also don't see how the Superbowl half-time show was an "idealized fantasy for men". I'm sure just as many women enjoyed it. Most of Shakira and Jennifer Lopez's fanbase would be female. My female friend, whose idea it was to watch it, enjoyed it just as much or even more than me.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
As a gay man I'm hardly in a position to quantify, especially not with your vague terms.
If a woman wears really revealing clothing to bar, bounces on the lap of a straight guy, talks about how much fun they'll have later at his place, eats and drinks most of his paycheck, drives herself to his apartment at closing time, then decides she's too tired for sex(but won't leave), and he has sex with her anyway( drunk as he is), is he guilty of rape?
According to U.S. law and social media, he is.

I don't take modern opinions about which sex is rape and which is just irresponsible very seriously.
Tom
Unfortunately that is the world that we live in. As a man one has to know that that may happen. No always means no when it comes to sex.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
As a gay man I'm hardly in a position to quantify, especially not with your vague terms.
Er... They're terms that you used.

If a woman wears really revealing clothing to bar, bounces on the lap of a straight guy, talks about how much fun they'll have later at his place, eats and drinks most of his paycheck, drives herself to his apartment at closing time, then decides she's too tired for sex(but won't leave), and he has sex with her anyway( drunk as he is), is he guilty of rape?
Yes.

According to U.S. law and social media, he is.
Because... He very clearly and obviously is?

Like... Having sex with someone AGAINST THEIR WILL is rape. That's what it is. That's the thing it is.

She didn't want sex.

He had sex with her anyway.

He raped her.

He is a rapist.

Is... is this controversial now?

I don't take modern opinions about which sex is rape and which is just irresponsible very seriously.
Tom
...

So, you don't believe it's wrong to force a women who doesn't want to have sex to have sex?
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Because men own most of the media.
Right. The question is, when the majority of media is controlled by men (including media aimed at women) what effect does this have on the presentation of both men and women, and which group is more likely to be adversely influenced by this?

I also don't see how the Superbowl half-time show was an "idealized fantasy for men". I'm sure just as many women enjoyed it. Most of Shakira and Jennifer Lopez's fanbase would be female. My female friend, whose idea it was to watch it, enjoyed it just as much or even more than me.
I've not really specifically mentioned the half-time show as an example. I have no idea if it is - I haven't watched it. I'm just chiming in on a few of the comments that came out of that about general trends in media, vis-a-vis the pressure on female entertainers to be a very specific kind of "attractive/sexy" that is not applied, generally, to male entertainers.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
You do tend to read things into posts that are not in them.
The post you quoted cited an example of a drunk woman not wanting to have sex with a guy, but the guy "having sex with her anyway" as identified as legal rape, and insinuated that it shouldn't be taken very seriously, and you said "Unfortunately that is the world we live in".

If that's not what you meant, please explain what you meant.
 
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