Christian persecution complex. Is there validity to it or not?

[Twilight Hue]

Why the Christian Persecution Complex Has to Stop — In the Shift

No. Christian persecution is overblown.

Yes, Christians are being persecuted in America. Here’s how we can respond

Yes. Christians are indeed persecuted.


Is it a thing that is actually going on, or is it an overreaction?

 

[VoidCat]

Some places Christians are persecuted. But in the US it's definitely overblown this is a Christian majority country Christians aren't persecuted that much in the US.

 

[Rival]

Why always about the US? It's not the only country on the earth.

Christians are horribly persecuted in Nigeria, Egypt, Syria, Uganda, Libya, Eritrea, Somalia, Sudan, the Maldives, Tunisia, Morocco, Mali, the Central African Republic, Djibouti, Comoros, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Mozambique, China, Pakistan, Yemen, Iran, some areas of India, Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Myanmar and similar places.

Try being a Christian there, in the Middle East and Egypt especially as the historic heartlands of Christianity, then say there's no persecution.

Where in the world is the worst place to be a Christian?

 

[Kenny]

Why the Christian Persecution Complex Has to Stop — In the Shift

No. Christian persecution is overblown.

Yes, Christians are being persecuted in America. Here’s how we can respond

Yes. Christians are indeed persecuted.


Is it a thing that is actually going on, or is it an overreaction?

I would equate that with racism. There will always be racism but in America, though it is present, it is not the norm. Likewise, in America, there is persecution but it is not the norm.

However, the reality is that if one doesn't stand up when it is found (whether persecution or racism) - it will eventually be the norm.

So, when there is Christian persecution in America, we must learn how to respond.

 

[VoidCat]

Why always about the US? It's not the only country on the earth.

Christians are horribly persecuted in Nigeria, Egypt, Syria, Uganda, Libya, Eritrea, Somalia, Sudan, the Maldives, Tunisia, Morocco, Mali, the Central African Republic, Djibouti, Comoros, DRC, Mozambique, China, Pakistan, Yemen, Iran, some areas of India, Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Myanmar and similar places.

Try being a Christian there, in the Middle East and Egypt especially as the historic heartlands of Christianity, then say there's no persecution.

Where in the world is the worst place to be a Christian?

That's why i said there are some places Christians are persecuted. Cuz some places it's very horrible to live at if you a christian

 

[Brian2]

Some places Christians are persecuted. But in the US it's definitely overblown this is a Christian majority country Christians aren't persecuted that much in the US.

Not "that much", just a bit.

 

[Brian2]

Why the Christian Persecution Complex Has to Stop — In the Shift

No. Christian persecution is overblown.

Yes, Christians are being persecuted in America. Here’s how we can respond

Yes. Christians are indeed persecuted.


Is it a thing that is actually going on, or is it an overreaction?

What I hear on this forum is the whinging and whining of atheists who claim Christians are persecuting them in the US.
You have my sympathies and I apologise for my American brothers and sisters if that is what they are doing.

 

[Augustus]

Is it a thing that is actually going on, or is it an overreaction?

Even if they have some legitimate complaints, I somewhat doubt they would come out favourably on any persecutor/persecuted balance of payments.

 

[ChristineM]

What I hear on this forum is the whinging and whining of atheists who claim Christians are persecuting them in the US.
You have my sympathies and I apologise for my American brothers and sisters if that is what they are doing.

On a driving tour of the deep south was one of the few times I've been scared for my life. Yes, that's what they are doing, at least on some areas

 

[Kharisym]

Is it a thing that is actually going on, or is it an overreaction?

As others have said, outside the US it is an issue in particular areas. With that out of the way, my experience and most of my knowledge is in the US. There is a small amount of persecution in the US in areas where Christianity is not dominant such as in some areas dominated by Hasidic Judaism, but of course anything except that dominant religion and its close corollaries are persecuted in those places. For the majority of the US, Christianity has a strongly privileged position in society. Comparing persecution, Christianity is probably the least persecuted group in the whole of the USA.

 

[Kharisym]

What I hear on this forum is the whinging and whining of atheists who claim Christians are persecuting them in the US.
You have my sympathies and I apologise for my American brothers and sisters if that is what they are doing.

In some areas of the US, being an open atheist is downright dangerous. In larger areas of the US, it'll cost you a job, friends, and encourage harassment by the police.

 

[Glaurung]

Progressivism is becoming the new moral orthodoxy in much of what used to be the (at least nominally) Christian world. As such those who hold to traditional religious beliefs especially in regards to sexual ethics will face an increasing degree of social hostility that will likely get more overt in the coming decades. I wouldn't go so far as to call it persecution though, at least not yet. You can still practice Christianity freely without any fear of being blown up or thrown into a re-education camp. America, Australia/New Zealand and Western Europe are far from the worst places to be a Christian.

 

[Kharisym]

Progressivism is becoming the new moral orthodoxy in much of what used to be the (at least nominally) Christian world. As such those who hold to traditional religious beliefs especially in regards to sexual ethics will face an increasing degree of social hostility that will likely get more overt in the coming decades. I wouldn't go so far as to call it persecution though, at least not yet.

This strikes me as an argument from privilege where you have a sense of that privilege being threatened. Let's rephrase that: Historically X group has had the freedom to use religion to say negative things and perform negative acts against group Y. Ethics have moved on, and group Y is being treated on a more equal footing and have a voice to counter false claims born of group X's privilege. Therefore group X is headed towards persecution? Do you see the irony in this? It boils down to "We used to be able to use religion to persecute X, but now we're being called out on it. Being called out on it is persecution."

tl;dr: Just because a belief about another group of people is made using religious backing, doesn't make it exempt from criticism. Criticism is not persecution, especially when demonstrably better ethics regarding a previously marginalized group is making the origin of that criticism.

 

[Brian2]

On a driving tour of the deep south was one of the few times I've been scared for my life. Yes, that's what they are doing, at least on some areas

Sorry, some Christians have no idea of what they say is their faith.

 

[Brian2]

In some areas of the US, being an open atheist is downright dangerous. In larger areas of the US, it'll cost you a job, friends, and encourage harassment by the police.

I get the impression that it is the same people all the time who carry prejudice. I'll bet it's the same areas that have prejudice against gays and other races and evolutionists and who are prone to white nationalism and who voted for Trump etc. or am I off the mark?
Do you think it is the type of Christianity that is embraced in those areas or just something about the people in those areas or what?

 

[Revoltingest]

What I hear on this forum is the whinging and whining of atheists who claim Christians are persecuting them in the US.
You have my sympathies and I apologise for my American brothers and sisters if that is what they are doing.

Well, those Christians do indeed try to force their faith
on others....banning abortions, banning contraception,
banning gay marriage, forcing religious oaths in courts
& classrooms.
And yet, with all this power...controlling over 90% of
all government's leaders....Christians still complain
of being persecuted by the very government they run.
Go figure.

 

[Kharisym]

I get the impression that it is the same people all the time who carry prejudice. I'll bet it's the same areas that have prejudice against gays and other races and evolutionists and who are prone to white nationalism and who voted for Trump etc. or am I off the mark?
Do you think it is the type of Christianity that is embraced in those areas or just something about the people in those areas or what?

Yes, there is strong correlation there, but I don't see how that applies. The fact is they justify that persecution with religion, and there is far more of that kind of persecution in the US than there is against Christians.

 

[Revoltingest]

On a driving tour of the deep south was one of the few times I've been scared for my life. Yes, that's what they are doing, at least on some areas

You must be one fearful wench.
(Or I must be one clueless groundskeeper.)
I've traveled in the south without fear.

Although.....
I did take the precaution of covering up me
bumper sticker first....
"I brake for rednecks & moon crickets"

 

[ChristineM]

You must be one fearful wench.
(Or I must be one clueless groundskeeper.)
I've traveled in the south without fear.

Although.....
I did take the precaution of covering up me
bumper sticker first....
"I brake for rednecks & moon crickets"

I don't say "sweet jesus" or "lord be praised" twice every sentence. I think it raises suspicion. And those folks is armed

 

[pearl]

I think its fair to say that for some, Christian persecution in the USA consists of whatever Atheists have accomplished regarding religion and the Constitution.