Christian persecution

[InChrist]

Persecution of Christians is on the increase with the help of the U.S.



"Prominent indicators confirm that the U.S. is the chief facilitator of the persecution of Christians around the world today."

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The U.S. and Christian Persecution

Page: http://balfourpost.com/The Balfour Post

 

[metis]

What a pathetic piece of rubbish that even a simple measure of common sense should tell anyone reading it. Just one of the "facts" the article states, namely that this administration supports both al-Queda and other "jihadists", is so bizarre (apparently the author never heard of the drone attacks or the assault on the al-Queda network, including down-grading bin-Laden to the bottom of the ocean) that it's hard to believe anyone can read it with a straight face.

 

[Quintessence]

Sad as it is, there may be a grain of truth in the United States facilitated increasing restrictions on religion (including Christianity) worldwide, but I think it would be extremely difficult to demonstrate any causation. Even if it is a cause, it would be exactly that: a cause of many. Here's what's known: a far more reputable research outlet than the one provided in the OP recently published an update to their studies on religious restrictions across the globe that shows religious hostilities are at a six year high (PEW Research).

The share of countries with a high or very high level of social hostilities involving religion reached a six-year peak in 2012, according to a new study by the Pew Research Center. A third (33%) of the 198 countries and territories included in the study had high religious hostilities in 2012, up from 29% in 2011 and 20% as of mid-2007. Religious hostilities increased in every major region of the world except the Americas.

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The share of countries with a high or very high level of government restrictions on religion stayed roughly the same in the latest year studied. About three-in-ten countries in the world (29%) had a high or very high level of government restrictions in 2012, compared with 28% in 2011 and 20% as of mid-2007.

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Looking at the overall level of restrictions – whether resulting from government policies or from social hostilities – the study finds that restrictions on religion are high or very high in 43% of countries, also a six-year high. Because some of these countries (like China) are very populous, more than 5.3 billion people (76% of the world’s population) live in countries with a high or very high level of restrictions on religion, up from 74% in 2011 and 68% as of mid-2007.

There's much, much more data to the report beyond the short expert I stuck up here, so do read it if you're interested in the facts. What PEW doesn't do - and this is part of why I like them - is speculate about causes. They simply make the observations.

 

[metis]

Let me quote some of the items in the article so as to refer to my response above:

...the Obama administration recently tried to go to war with Syria on behalf of the “freedom fighters,”...

...What’s worse, even the most misinformed mainstream-media-watching American today knows that the so-called “Arab Spring,” which was hailed to justify U.S. support for “rebels” of all stripes—in Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood (which months ago destroyed some 80 churches); in Libya, al-Qaeda, which has turned Benghazi into a terror zone; and now the “freedom fighters” in Syria—is not what it was touted to be...

...Libya: Ever since U.S.-backed, al-Qaeda-linked terrorists overthrew Qaddafi, ...

...Conversely, the Obama administration has had both Afghanistan and Iraq to learn from—and yet still it supports Islamists and jihadis...

...I am often asked, “How can we help persecuted Christians?” At this point, one must respond: “How about starting with getting the U.S. government to stop being the chief facilitator of Christian persecution?” ...

 

[tytlyf]

So the 'martyr' killings are on the increase over the years in other countries that the US gets involved in? Seems a bit right considering these Islamic countries view the US presence as a 'christian' presence. You go about invading countries and ******* the locals off it's no surprise they'll target christians for their hate. Gotta love religion.

That source is a little scary and I wouldn't take much of it too seriously. Just visiting the main page kinda spells it all out.

 

[Revoltingest]

Persecution of Christians is on the increase with the help of the U.S.
"Prominent indicators confirm that the U.S. is the chief facilitator of the persecution of Christians around the world today."
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The U.S. and Christian Persecution
Page: http://balfourpost.com/The Balfour Post

I've long wondered that in a country ruled by an overwhelming Xian majority, what motive they'd
have for persecuting fellow believers. Do you suppose that it's about sectarian differences?

 

[Alceste]

If I wanted to come up with the worst tag line on earth for a website, I don't think I could ever come close to anything as inspired as "Highlighting Israel's Global Relevance One Reader at a Time". My God. I'm already bored half to death and I haven't even gotten to the headline! I'm sorry, I don't think I can do it. Can somebody give me the Cliff Notes version?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

If I wanted to come up with the worst tag line on earth for a website, I don't think I could ever come close to anything as inspired as "Highlighting Israel's Global Relevance One Reader at a Time". My God. I'm already bored half to death and I haven't even gotten to the headline! I'm sorry, I don't think I can do it. Can somebody give me the Cliff Notes version?

"BS, BS, crap, blah, blah, whine, blab, yadda, yadda, etc, etc."

That's just a guess. My time is obviously far too valuable to waste on such foolishness.

 

[dyanaprajna2011]

What a load of crap. It's not worth commenting any further.

 

[Alceste]

"BS, BS, crap, blah, blah, whine, blab, yadda, yadda, etc, etc."

That's just a guess. My time is obviously far too valuable to waste on such foolishness.

Thanks, Kilgore. You've summed it up perfectly.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

It's quite annoying in my opinion to play the victim in any sort of group, when there clearly is a pattern as to why you are victimized but you still constantly follow this pattern. It's observed in the religious and in the nonreligious, in the sexuality, in the culture, in the skin, in the politics... The list is endless. People will always meet discrimination, it's unavoidable, there is no stop to it.

The last thing we need is another rights activist group, if everyone were to point the finger, there'd be more activists than traffic.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Persecution of Christians is on the increase with the help of the U.S.



"Prominent indicators confirm that the U.S. is the chief facilitator of the persecution of Christians around the world today."

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The U.S. and Christian Persecution

Page: http://balfourpost.com/The Balfour Post

Sorry...the article is garbage....

 

[InChrist]

Not garbage...it's true.




"The U.S.-backed Free Syrian Army — those are the “moderates,” you know. How moderate? This moderate: in July 2013, Free Syrian Army fighters entered the Christian village of Oum Sharshouh and began burning down houses and terrorizing the population, forcing 250 Christian families to flee the area. Worthy News reported that just two days later, Free Syrian Army rebels “targeted the residents of al-Duwayr/Douar, a Christian village close to the city of Homs and near Syria’s border with Lebanon….Around 350 armed militants forcefully entered the homes of Christian families who were all rounded-up in the main square of the village and then summarily executed.” And in September 2013, a day after Secretary of State John Kerry praised the Free Syrian Army as “a real moderate opposition,” the FSA took to the Internet to post videos of its attack on the ancient Syrian Christian city of Maaloula, one of the few places where Aramaic, the language of Jesus, is still spoken.
This is just the faction Obama is backing. This is America’s shame."
U.S. training Free Syrian Army in Jordan — a group that violently targets Christians : Jihad Watch



"The U.S.-backed Syrian rebel faction known as the Free Syrian Army has posted videos of their attack this past week on the ancient city of Maaloula. The attacks on the Christian village came one day after Sec. of State Kerry told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Tuesday, “There is a real moderate opposition that exists. General Idriss is running the military arm of that."
'Moderate' Syrian Rebels Post Videos of Attack on Christian Town

 

[Monk Of Reason]

Persecution of Christians is on the increase with the help of the U.S.



"Prominent indicators confirm that the U.S. is the chief facilitator of the persecution of Christians around the world today."

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The U.S. and Christian Persecution

Page: http://balfourpost.com/The Balfour Post

There is no persecution. Simply people wanting to whine about how not everyone agree's with their viewpoint. They want the victim card.

 

[tytlyf]

Not garbage...it's true.




"The U.S.-backed Free Syrian Army — those are the “moderates,” you know. How moderate? This moderate: in July 2013, Free Syrian Army fighters entered the Christian village of Oum Sharshouh and began burning down houses and terrorizing the population, forcing 250 Christian families to flee the area. Worthy News reported that just two days later, Free Syrian Army rebels “targeted the residents of al-Duwayr/Douar, a Christian village close to the city of Homs and near Syria’s border with Lebanon….Around 350 armed militants forcefully entered the homes of Christian families who were all rounded-up in the main square of the village and then summarily executed.” And in September 2013, a day after Secretary of State John Kerry praised the Free Syrian Army as “a real moderate opposition,” the FSA took to the Internet to post videos of its attack on the ancient Syrian Christian city of Maaloula, one of the few places where Aramaic, the language of Jesus, is still spoken.
This is just the faction Obama is backing. This is America’s shame."
U.S. training Free Syrian Army in Jordan — a group that violently targets Christians : Jihad Watch



"The U.S.-backed Syrian rebel faction known as the Free Syrian Army has posted videos of their attack this past week on the ancient city of Maaloula. The attacks on the Christian village came one day after Sec. of State Kerry told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Tuesday, “There is a real moderate opposition that exists. General Idriss is running the military arm of that."
'Moderate' Syrian Rebels Post Videos of Attack on Christian Town

You changed the topic of your OP. This is just more propaganda and spin. How many christians were rounded up and executed in the towns' main square again?

 

[Quintessence]

There is no persecution. Simply people wanting to whine about how not everyone agree's with their viewpoint. They want the victim card.

Or there might actually have a valid point here (that's a link back to one of my earlier posts). I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the idea of Christians being persecuted across the globe. I'm not a fan of the somewhat overzealous propagandistic spin the OP is taking on the topic, but the fact remains it does happen.

 

[dyanaprajna2011]

Are Christians are persecuted in various countries? Of course. But it's little more than propaganda to suggest that it's being done by the US government. That's the type of thought that can't separate religion from politics that would think that.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Persecution of Christians is on the increase with the help of the U.S.



"Prominent indicators confirm that the U.S. is the chief facilitator of the persecution of Christians around the world today."

continue reading...


The U.S. and Christian Persecution

Page: http://balfourpost.com/The Balfour Post

Does this mean the U.S. is a Christian country or not? Is the government made up of mostly self-proclaimed Christians? How can a religion persecute its own followers?

 

[Quintessence]

Does this mean the U.S. is a Christian country or not? Is the government made up of mostly self-proclaimed Christians? How can a religion persecute its own followers?

Pretty easily when Christianity is hardly a monolithic religion and there are splinters, sects, and clashes on a regular basis.

Still, considering other factors, it's improbable that there's some nutty conspiracy to defame Christianity by the US elsewhere in the world. Frankly, the delicate and complicated situation of religious freedoms worldwide doesn't need that kind of nonsense to be volatile in the first place.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Pretty easily when Christianity is hardly a monolithic religion and there are splinters, sects, and clashes on a regular basis.

Still, considering other factors, it's improbable that there's some nutty conspiracy to defame Christianity by the US elsewhere in the world. Frankly, the delicate and complicated situation of religious freedoms worldwide doesn't need that kind of nonsense to be volatile in the first place.

Yeah, I can see that. I think it's confusing when one tries to create a homogenous Christianity as being persecuted, or when one tries to create a homogenous Christianity as being persecutors.

I mean, it's impossible for me to see the Amish or the Mennonites as being among any of the two camps. They stay so far away from politics as it is.