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Christianity Continues Decline in America: Pew Survey Results

gsa

Well-Known Member
A Pew survey released yesterday shows American Christianity has declined from 78.4% of the population to 70.6%, with most losses attributable to mainline Protestantism. Over 22% of the US population is now religiously unaffiliated, the so-called "Nones." The survey compares results from a similar 2007 survey to demonstrate the shift in religious demographics, including the rise of the unaffiliated. The only group larger than the unaffiliated is Protestant Evangelicals.

Millennials are more likely to be unaffiliated as well, and appear to be driving the decline of American Christianity:

One of the most important factors in the declining share of Christians and the growth of the “nones” is generational replacement. As the Millennial generation enters adulthood, its members display much lower levels of religious affiliation, including less connection with Christian churches, than older generations. Fully 36% of young Millennials (those between the ages of 18 and 24) are religiously unaffiliated, as are 34% of older Millennials (ages 25-33). And fewer than six-in-ten Millennials identify with any branch of Christianity, compared with seven-in-ten or more among older generations, including Baby Boomers and Gen-Xers. Just 16% of Millennials are Catholic, and only 11% identify with mainline Protestantism. Roughly one-in-five are evangelical Protestants.

The first wave of Millennials have become less religious since 2007, registering a 9 percentage drop in religious affiliation. There have also been gains in the Generation X cohort and among Baby Boomers. And for every one person who has switched from being raised unaffiliated to a particular religious affiliation, there are more than four people who have switched to unaffiliated after being raised with a religious affiliation. The only major group that has gained more than it has lost is Evangelical Protestants, and only a net of 2% points which may indicate it has simply remained stable. The retention rate for the unaffiliated has also increased by 7% over the seven year period. They are also increasingly assertive:

As the ranks of the religiously unaffiliated continue to grow, they also describe themselves in increasingly secular terms. In 2007, 25% of the “nones” called themselves atheists or agnostics; 39% identified their religion as “nothing in particular” and also said that religion is “not too” or “not at all” important in their lives; and 36% identified their religion as “nothing in particular” while nevertheless saying that religion is either “very important” or “somewhat important” in their lives. The new survey finds that the atheist and agnostic share of the “nones” has grown to 31%. Those identifying as “nothing in particular” and describing religion as unimportant in their lives continue to account for 39% of all “nones.” But the share identifying as “nothing in particular” while also affirming that religion is either “very” or “somewhat” important to them has fallen to 30% of all “nones.”

I would be interested to see more detail in the Evangelical numbers. The largest evangelical denomination, the Southern Baptist Convention, is in decline. The slight, perhaps statistically insignificant growth of Evangelicals might be attributable to Pentecostalism if the US mirrors global Christian demographic trends.

So what do you make of the cause of this trend? Is the rise of secularism still too slow? What will happen to mainline Protestantism and Catholicism?
 
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Guy Threepwood

Mighty Pirate
A Pew survey released yesterday shows American Christianity has declined from 78.4% of the population to 70.6%, with most losses attributable to mainline Protestantism. Over 22% of the US population is now religiously unaffiliated, the so-called "Nones." The survey compares results from a similar 2007 survey to demonstrate the shift in religious demographics, including the rise of the unaffiliated. The only group larger than the unaffiliated is Protestant Evangelicals.

Millennials are more likely to be unaffiliated as well, and appear to be driving the decline of American Christianity:

One of the most important factors in the declining share of Christians and the growth of the “nones” is generational replacement. As the Millennial generation enters adulthood, its members display much lower levels of religious affiliation, including less connection with Christian churches, than older generations. Fully 36% of young Millennials (those between the ages of 18 and 24) are religiously unaffiliated, as are 34% of older Millennials (ages 25-33). And fewer than six-in-ten Millennials identify with any branch of Christianity, compared with seven-in-ten or more among older generations, including Baby Boomers and Gen-Xers. Just 16% of Millennials are Catholic, and only 11% identify with mainline Protestantism. Roughly one-in-five are evangelical Protestants.

The first wave of Millennials have become less religious since 2007, registering a 9 percentage drop in religious affiliation. There have also been gains in the Generation X cohort and among Baby Boomers. And for every one person who has switched from being raised unaffiliated to a particular religious affiliation, there are more than four people who have switched to unaffiliated after being raised with a religious affiliation. The only major group that has gained more than it has lost is Evangelical Protestants, and only a net of 2% points which may indicate it has simply remained stable. The retention rate for the unaffiliated has also increased by 7% over the seven year period. They are also increasingly assertive:

As the ranks of the religiously unaffiliated continue to grow, they also describe themselves in increasingly secular terms. In 2007, 25% of the “nones” called themselves atheists or agnostics; 39% identified their religion as “nothing in particular” and also said that religion is “not too” or “not at all” important in their lives; and 36% identified their religion as “nothing in particular” while nevertheless saying that religion is either “very important” or “somewhat important” in their lives. The new survey finds that the atheist and agnostic share of the “nones” has grown to 31%. Those identifying as “nothing in particular” and describing religion as unimportant in their lives continue to account for 39% of all “nones.” But the share identifying as “nothing in particular” while also affirming that religion is either “very” or “somewhat” important to them has fallen to 30% of all “nones.”

I would be interested to see more detail in the Evangelical numbers. The largest evangelical denomination, the Southern Baptist Convention, is in decline. The slight, perhaps statistically insignificant growth of Evangelicals might be attributable to Pentecostalism if the US mirrors global Christian demographic trends.

while Christianity grows in Russia, China, it's interesting how faith tends to track with a nation's ascendancy and decline
 

gsa

Well-Known Member
Some interesting reactions to this news reported at Religious News Service:

“It’s because we’re right,” crowed David Silverman, president of American Atheists. He hadn’t yet seen the Pew findings, but commented based on other surveys he said showed nones rising numbers. Indeed, it’s the public attention given to ‘nones’ in the last decade, combined with the wide-open access to anti-religious discussion on the Internet, that drives the change, Silverman said.

While atheists, agnostics and the remainder of the Nones celebrate the growth in clout and influence, the co-director of the General Social Survey believes that politicians need to take note of these developments, and that conservative Christianity is at least partially to blame for the decline of Christianity in America;

Politicians should take note, said Mike Hout, a sociologist and demographer at New York University who is also a co-director of the General Social Survey.

“Traditionally, we thought religion was the mover and politics were the consequence,” he said. Today, it’s the opposite.

Many of today’s formerly faithful left conservative evangelical or Catholic denominations because “they saw them align with a conservative political agenda and they don’t want to be identified with that,” Hout said.
 

gsa

Well-Known Member
while Christianity grows in Russia, China, it's interesting how faith tends to track with a nation's ascendancy and decline

If Russia was actually experiencing ascendancy that might be relevant. And while Christianity is growing in China, it is still a tiny percentage of the population. I suspect it won't be allowed to grow much larger.
 

Monk Of Reason

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while Christianity grows in Russia, China, it's interesting how faith tends to track with a nation's ascendancy and decline
America hasn't been on the active decline for a while. There was a short decline but that was worldwide and we are currently going back up. Crime is still decreasing, teen childbirth are decreasing and our economy is increasing. All while religion is decreasing.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
while Christianity grows in Russia, China, it's interesting how faith tends to track with a nation's ascendancy and decline
Are you claiming that Russia and China are "ascending" and the United Statesss is "declining"? If so, why specifically? Can you point to examples that show this to be true?
 

Guy Threepwood

Mighty Pirate
America hasn't been on the active decline for a while. There was a short decline but that was worldwide and we are currently going back up. Crime is still decreasing, teen childbirth are decreasing and our economy is increasing. All while religion is decreasing.

Highest GDP growth

1.North Dakota
2.Wyoming
3.W.Virginia
4.Oklahoma
5.Idaho

the two lowest are

#49 Maryland
#50 Alaska

which are #47 and #48 respectively for religiosity.
 

Monk Of Reason

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Highest GDP growth

1.North Dakota
2.Wyoming
3.W.Virginia
4.Oklahoma
5.Idaho

the two lowest are

#49 Maryland
#50 Alaska

which are #47 and #48 respectively for religiosity.
Alaska is one of the most conservative states out there. They elected Sarah Palin twice. And the highest growth doesn't mean by any bit that they are the highest. California for example grosses more than all five of those states put together. It doesn't get more goddless than that I don't think. So despite it being " on the rise" they are so woefully behind its laughable. Though if you want to try and tie economics to religion then why is it that the higher the GDP of a country typically results in higher rates of non-religious groups. Are you taking into account all of the highly religious third world countries? There are almost no third world countries that have any degree of measurable Atheism. They tend to be incredibly religious. And yet they are in the worst state possible.

I, unlike you, have not tacked on religion to success of a nation. But I can and have demonstrated that its a load of crap that religion tends to have any impact on the success of a country.
 

Guy Threepwood

Mighty Pirate
Alaska is one of the most conservative states out there. They elected Sarah Palin twice. And the highest growth doesn't mean by any bit that they are the highest. California for example grosses more than all five of those states put together. It doesn't get more goddless than that I don't think. So despite it being " on the rise" they are so woefully behind its laughable. Though if you want to try and tie economics to religion then why is it that the higher the GDP of a country typically results in higher rates of non-religious groups. Are you taking into account all of the highly religious third world countries? There are almost no third world countries that have any degree of measurable Atheism. They tend to be incredibly religious. And yet they are in the worst state possible.

I, unlike you, have not tacked on religion to success of a nation. But I can and have demonstrated that its a load of crap that religion tends to have any impact on the success of a country.

California is middle of the pack- #20 in growth and #31 in religiosity,

Texas: 8th in growth, 11th in religiosity

NY is 46 and 39...
 

Monk Of Reason

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California is middle of the pack- #20 in growth and #31 in religiosity,
Does it really matter? Does religion have anything to do with his huge amount of economic success? Lets break it down even further. The majority of new wealth and GDP comes from southern California. The majority of its religiosity comes from central and northern Cali where its more rural but has far less actual GDP.
 

Guy Threepwood

Mighty Pirate
Does it really matter? Does religion have anything to do with his huge amount of economic success? Lets break it down even further. The majority of new wealth and GDP comes from southern California. The majority of its religiosity comes from central and northern Cali where its more rural but has far less actual GDP.

I agree it's not a reliable correlation, I don't really think we can draw those conclusions either way
 

Monk Of Reason

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I agree it's not a reliable correlation, I don't really think we can draw those conclusions either way
I can agree with that. Thus religion doesn't have any causation to the success of a nation. Which, if I recall seemed to have been your point. So hopefully we are now in agreement.
 
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