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Christianity doesnt exist

ΩRôghênΩ

ΩRôghênΩ

Disciple of Light
My religious path of christianity. just like Madriism or Patrickism. it seems people tend to make their own religions, so i did so with christianity
 
Opethian

Opethian

Active Member
What's the point of debating who is a true christian in the eyes of god when all religions are man-made religions anyway, and the book that you perceive sets the rules and guidelines to being a true christian was written by many different people, translated so many times, and can be interpreted in so many ways? Just try to live your life to the fullest and help as much other people as possible while doing it. Besides, the whole "My actions and decisions are better than yours so I'm a better christian than you" doesn't make any sense at all, especially from my standpoint on how we make choices. With enough information and processing power, the choices we make and the actions we undertake could be predicted by the structure of our body (including our memories, our life experiences) and the input from our environment, so it's safe to say not everybody gets the same chance to become "as good a christian" as others, in fact, there is nothing spiritual about us that makes these choices at all. So why then judge people on their decisions and actions when they had no real "free will choice" to begin with.

It seems to me the whole concept of being a true christian is hypocritical and delusional at best.
 
ΩRôghênΩ

ΩRôghênΩ

Disciple of Light
well you made a statement like you were absouletely sure that all religions are man made. this cannot be proven or disproven therefore you shouldnt be saying it can be or cannot be. thats judgemental
 
Opethian

Opethian

Active Member
well you made a statement like you were absouletely sure that all religions are man made. this cannot be proven or disproven therefore you shouldnt be saying it can be or cannot be. thats judgemental
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I think the majority of your posts accurately represent the definition of judgmental (of other people, in this case), but my post is simply the only logical conclusion of available evidence. Religions arise out of humans' intepretation of events and phenomena that they can't explain rationally.

And like standing_alone already said, without cynicism, we would be nowhere.
 
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standing_alone

Well-Known Member
~Lord Roghen~ said:
well you made a statement like you were absouletely sure that all religions are man made. this cannot be proven or disproven therefore you shouldnt be saying it can be or cannot be. thats judgemental
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And in the OP you pulled a statistic out of your a**. Your point?

And what does his statement that all religions are man made have to do with him being wrong? His opinion is at least as valid as yours (and that's being generous to your opinion). What about some of the other ideas in his post? Why didn't you respond to any of those. I found this part especially interesting:

Opethian said:
Besides, the whole "My actions and decisions are better than yours so I'm a better christian than you" doesn't make any sense at all, especially from my standpoint on how we make choices. With enough information and processing power, the choices we make and the actions we undertake could be predicted by the structure of our body (including our memories, our life experiences) and the input from our environment, so it's safe to say not everybody gets the same chance to become "as good a christian" as others, in fact, there is nothing spiritual about us that makes these choices at all. So why then judge people on their decisions and actions when they had no real "free will choice" to begin with.
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I'd like to hear your ideas on this.
 
Opethian

Opethian

Active Member
If it wasn't for the evolution of cynicism in our minds, we would still have the intelligence of a below-average monkey. What if we would have thought that there was some kind of god that made fire, and that we should only use fire if it arose from his divine essence (lightning). We would have never figured out how to make fire ourselves, and would still be hunting for and eating raw meat everyday.

What if we would've thought that the growing of plants was caused by the will of a certain god, and never critically analysed the process of the growing of plants? We would never have invented agriculture, never become sedentary and would still be primal, travelling hunters.
 
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Opethian said:
If it wasn't for the evolution of cynicism in our minds, we would still have the intelligence of a below-average monkey. What if we would have thought that there was some kind of god that made fire, and that we should only use fire if it arose from his divine essence (lightning). We would have never figured out how to make fire ourselves, and would still be hunting for and eating raw meat everyday.
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i think 'skepticism' would be a better term.
 
Opethian

Opethian

Active Member
That's if we would be lucky enough to not die out. ;)
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Indeed, perhaps we would have been eradicated by some other species that developed cynicism, that we would've normally eradicated ourselves if we had developed cynicism, which in this case, we did not. :bonk:
 
Opethian

Opethian

Active Member
i think 'skepticism' would be a better term.
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Probably. I'm not all that with english definitions, since I come from Belgium. From what I understand cynicism is just a result of skepticism.
 
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standing_alone

Well-Known Member
Opethian said:
Probably. I'm not all that with english definitions, since I come from Belgium. From what I understand cynicism is just a result of skepticism.
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Yeah, it could be considered such. Cynicism is a "negative attitude" or "distrust" towards the motives of others.
 
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