christianity was wrong before

[waitasec]

Tyrannical beliefs that lead to tyrannical actions.

which are?

I think most of this is over your heads. The Jews took the land that was promised them. Yes God had many rules set that killed and those were changed when Christ went to the Cross. It does not mean any of it is Good in the eyes of God but the way it is dealt with has changed. Read the Christian Bible KJV or NIV you will see it in there toward the end of the Book.

i'm assuming my head is one of those heads you were referring to...

why would god change the rules? you admit god does not hold a constant standard. when he "destroyed the earth" it was because of man' evilness, but then he vowed not to do it again because of mans evil predisposition, but then it was ok to commit genocide? sure jesus went to the cross... but see this entire belief in a scapegoat still does not take away your guilt.
only you live with the truth of your shortcomings.

 

[Archer]

I never said you did.
Interestingly enough you did imply that they are worse than Christians......

Actually I left the implications to the reader. I won't say I disagree with a lot that is in the Muslim system as it is a way to keep order. Many humans need order or they can't function properly. A lot of dysfunctional people in the world from all religions; they lack order.

 

[Archer]

i'm assuming my head is one of those heads you were referring to...

why would god change the rules? you admit god does not hold a constant standard. when he "destroyed the earth" it was because of man' evilness, but then he vowed not to do it again because of mans evil predisposition, but then it was ok to commit genocide? sure jesus went to the cross... but see this entire belief in a scapegoat still does not take away your guilt.
only you live with the truth of your shortcomings.

I am not trying to be insulting and if you truly wish to understand open a thread in the Christian DIR. ATM I do believe it is over your head.

 

[waitasec]

I am not trying to be insulting and if you truly wish to understand open a thread in the Christian DIR. ATM I do believe it is over your head.

please enlighten me...
i'm here to learn. are you?

why are you changing the subject about my understanding of the subject? what's the point unless you can't answer the question.

 

[ellenjanuary]

Actually I left the implications to the reader. I won't say I disagree with a lot that is in the Muslim system as it is a way to keep order. Many humans need order or they can't function properly. A lot of dysfunctional people in the world from all religions; they lack order.

Oh noes! Run! It's the Borg!

You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

Kidding, Archer.

That's the take I get from the parable of Jesus being the body of the temple. It's not so much about "Just say no to drugs," that's the prophet Nancy. It's more about having a well-ordered mind.

 

[outhouse]

please enlighten me...
i'm here to learn. are you?

why are you changing the subject about my understanding of the subject? what's the point unless you can't answer the question.

Thats his MO

he goes sideways faster then a rattler lol

 

[waitasec]

Thats his MO

he goes sideways faster then a rattler lol

"well, ah....i'll blame your inability to understand."
:run:




impressive moves

 

[Archer]

Like I said in the Christian Dir if you truly wish to understand. There are many people here who are more than willing to help in understanding the Bible from a Christian perspective. By understand how a Christian understands thew Bible it will make for more delightful debates in general.

 

[Archer]

Oh noes! Run! It's the Borg!

You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

Kidding, Archer.

It's not so much about "Just say no to drugs," that's the prophet Nancy.

Good ones

 

[waitasec]

Like I said in the Christian Dir if you truly wish to understand. There are many people here who are more than willing to help in understanding the Bible from a Christian perspective. By understand how a Christian understands thew Bible it will make for more delightful debates in general.

if you haven't noticed we are in the religious debate section.
and since you come across as though you are very knowledgeable (a very common trait christians have that i find to be very annoying), i don't understand why you can't answer the questions i presented. instead of insulting my understanding, "i don't mean to be rude...this is over your head" which is a typical typical ad hominem with an appeal to the complexity... doesn't seem as though you are prepared to debate and thusly your knowledge is shot to the ground.
thus far it only seems as though you know more then everyone, in your own mind, for the simple fact you don't even have a rebuttal just ad hominem's...
that being said, are you here to debate and learn something or not?

 

[Archer]

if you haven't noticed we are in the religious debate section.
and since you come across as though you are very knowledgeable (a very common trait christians have that i find to be very annoying), i don't understand why you can't answer the questions i presented. instead of insulting my understanding, "i don't mean to be rude...this is over your head" which is a typical typical ad hominem with an appeal to the complexity... doesn't seem as though you are prepared to debate and thusly your knowledge is shot to the ground.
thus far it only seems as though you know more then everyone, in your own mind, for the simple fact you don't even have a rebuttal just ad hominem's...
that being said, are you here to debate and learn something or not?

If you choose to be willfully ignorant that is fine. I said open the thread in the Christian DIR because explanation and leading one to understand the tenants of Christianity are not something to put out on a debate floor. If you start a thread you can ask all the questions you like and will get answers but here it would not work because headway in either direction is almost never made.

 

[waitasec]

If you choose to be willfully ignorant that is fine. I said open the thread in the Christian DIR because explanation and leading one to understand the tenants of Christianity are not something to put out on a debate floor. If you start a thread you can ask all the questions you like and will get answers but here it would not work because headway in either direction is almost never made in General.

who's being willfully ignorant? i asked a question in regards to THIS THREAD. why do you keep changing the subject?
can you admit you don't know and stop pretending that you do...?
this is the common trait i find to be very annoying.

explanation and leading one to understand the tenants of Christianity are not something to put out on a debate floor.

why not? is faith that fragile?

If you start a thread you can ask all the questions you like and will get answers but here it would not work because headway in either direction is almost never made in General.

well that wouldn't work if you think the tenants of christianity is not something to be debated
it's more like the tyrannical characteristics i've been talking about,
which leaves no room for debate....

 

[Jacksnyte]

why not? is faith that fragile?

From all I've read, and discussed, and seen, I would have to say that yes: most people's faith is that fragile!

 

[waitasec]

From all I've read, and discussed, and seen, I would have to say that yes: most people's faith is that fragile!

makes one wonder why they're on a debating forum?

 

[outhouse]

so the christians were wrong about Galileo and carried out the inquisition,etc etc...what makes you think christianity is correct in its teachings??

this is what the thread is about.

YES christians were horribly wrong, they murdered bruno for this same offence. Galileo was lucky.

In my opinion christianity is not correct in any sense. They take the jewish religion and claim a jewish saviour as their messiah which jews denounce,, then it is based on jewish authors of the NT,,,,,,,, and then christians interpret it any way they feel like no matter how many are murdered in cold blood to protect their foul interpretation.

 

[McBell]

makes one wonder why they're on a debating forum?

Seems to me that there are many who are looking to be 'prosecuted' because they think that being 'prosecuted' proves their beliefs.

 

[Archer]

who's being willfully ignorant? i asked a question in regards to THIS THREAD. why do you keep changing the subject?
can you admit you don't know and stop pretending that you do...?
this is the common trait i find to be very annoying.


why not? is faith that fragile?


well that wouldn't work if you think the tenants of christianity is not something to be debated
it's more like the tyrannical characteristics i've been talking about,
which leaves no room for debate....

From all I've read, and discussed, and seen, I would have to say that yes: most people's faith is that fragile!

makes one wonder why they're on a debating forum?

Because the subject is so far off topic that it needs its own thread. It also does not need a bunch of moronic side tracks such as we get in General. I think you are scared. Hell I wont even post in the thread in Christian if you start one so you don't have to be scared.

Seems to me that there are many who are looking to be 'prosecuted' because they think that being 'prosecuted' proves their beliefs.

You wish.

 

[waitasec]

Because the subject is so far off topic that it needs its own thread. It also does not need a bunch of moronic side tracks such as we get in General. I think you are scared. Hell I wont even post in the thread in Christian if you start one so you don't have to be scared.

"moronic side tracks" and "you are scared"
this speaks volumes about your insecurity.

 

[outhouse]

Christians and jews were very wrong in the bible

its a shame they cannot accept man wrote the bible for man and the only divinity in tehbible are hallucinations in my opinion.

heres a link on how they thought the earth was flat and that the sun revolved around the earth

The Scriptural Basis for a Geocentric Cosmology

 

[Archer]

"moronic side tracks" and "you are scared"
this speaks volumes about your insecurity.

Christians and jews were very wrong in the bible

its a shame they cannot accept man wrote the bible for man and the only divinity in tehbible are hallucinations in my opinion.

heres a link on how they thought the earth was flat and that the sun revolved around the earth

The Scriptural Basis for a Geocentric Cosmology

Yet you wont take me up on the offer of a thread that you create to gain some insight. Sidestepping Cowards. I even said I would not post in the thread. Wow wimpy.