Christians and Jews Who Sanction Homosexual Sex

[Saint Frankenstein]

I will be attending an Episcopal service on Sunday. Never been to one before. It will be lovely to finally attend a church that would accept my sexuality and gender identity, along with being able to take the Sacraments and attend the liturgy. Goodbye, Catholic Church. Funnily, the Episcopal parish is 2 blocks from the Catholic parish I attended. Lol.

 

[Ellen Brown]

I will be attending an Episcopal service on Sunday. Never been to one before. It will be lovely to finally attend a church that would accept my sexuality and gender identity, along with being able to take the Sacraments and attend the liturgy. Goodbye, Catholic Church. Funnily, the Episcopal parish is 2 blocks from the Catholic parish I attended. Lol.

I want to please God, I need to please God, I must do so. I learned that blinking my eye is forbidden, so it is sinful and I must stop. I must! Still I do it. I must stop. I want to do so so badly because I want to please God. Why must I still do it and why must I weep in shame at my defeat? Surely I will go wherever binkers go and live or die in shame. Romans 7:24-25 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

So, my premise is that is someone sins but does not want to, then they are contrite and repentant as much as they are able ... I me, it is likely that each of us have a sin that we can not stop. For that Jesus the Christ carries our burden. This will not please the sanctimonious and holy. It's the best I got.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I want to please God, I need to please God, I must do so. I learned that blinking my eye is forbidden, so it is sinful and I must stop. I must! Still I do it. I must stop. I want to do so so badly because I want to please God. Why must I still do it and why must I weep in shame at my defeat? Surely I will go wherever binkers go and live or die in shame. Romans 7:24-25 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

So, my premise is that is someone sins but does not want to, then they are contrite and repentant as much as they are able ... I me, it is likely that each of us have a sin that we can not stop. For that Jesus the Christ carries our burden. This will not please the sanctimonious and holy. It's the best I got.

Except I don't agree that homosexuality or being trans is sinful. I'm way past the stage of agonizing over that. I'm totally fine with my sexual orientation and have already transitioned to male so the next step is finding a church community that accepts me.

 

[Muffled]

That means, at least in regards to genocide, that you do not believe the Bible. And the Bible supports slavery. If it is against God's will why was there never a commandment against it? The Bible is against the enslavement of Jews, especially as a people, but not against slavery itself.

I believe the contrary is true. The Bible is quite clear that people should not commit murder.

I believe in the sense that it does not condemn it in all instances then you are correct. However it never really comes out and says that it is a good thing and there are instances where it is condemned. Slavery as practiced i the New World would have fallen in the condemned category.

I believe it is possible that God sometimes addresses some things on an ethno-centric basis. If you want to know what he says now, I can provide that for you.

 

[Muffled]

No. It’s not.

I believe there is no way you can ascertain that.

 

[Ellen Brown]

Except I don't agree that homosexuality or being trans is sinful. I'm way past the stage of agonizing over that. I'm totally fine with my sexual orientation and have already transitioned to male so the next step is finding a church community that accepts me.

My post was intended to be mirthfully disrespectful of the judgmental condemners.

 

[Muffled]

And yet... Christians do what they do not believe in...

I believe that is a misrepresentation of what I said and is highly unlikely. I said it was not Christianity not what some Christians believe in. I believe most Christians like most people do what they believe whether it is right or wrong.

 

[Muffled]

I want to please God, I need to please God, I must do so. I learned that blinking my eye is forbidden, so it is sinful and I must stop. I must! Still I do it. I must stop. I want to do so so badly because I want to please God. Why must I still do it and why must I weep in shame at my defeat? Surely I will go wherever binkers go and live or die in shame. Romans 7:24-25 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

So, my premise is that is someone sins but does not want to, then they are contrite and repentant as much as they are able ... I me, it is likely that each of us have a sin that we can not stop. For that Jesus the Christ carries our burden. This will not please the sanctimonious and holy. It's the best I got.

I believe the best you have means that Jesus is responsible. I also believe Jesus instead of removing the sin allows us to struggle against it as part of a learning process. He certainly has it covered.

 

[Muffled]

Except I don't agree that homosexuality or being trans is sinful. I'm way past the stage of agonizing over that. I'm totally fine with my sexual orientation and have already transitioned to male so the next step is finding a church community that accepts me.

I believe the moment you legitimize your sin for your self by your own opinion you cease to be a Christian and any congregation that would accept you on that basis is apostate.

 

[Ellen Brown]

Except I don't agree that homosexuality or being trans is sinful. I'm way past the stage of agonizing over that. I'm totally fine with my sexual orientation and have already transitioned to male so the next step is finding a church community that accepts me.

I hope that you continue to feel confident of your position. It's been 13 years for me, and it now seems clear that I took an action that is not completely defensible. Peace unto you.

 

[Ellen Brown]

I believe the best you have means that Jesus is responsible. I also believe Jesus instead of removing the sin allows us to struggle against it as part of a learning process. He certainly has it covered.

I believe that it is humanity that has hardly begun to understand the nature of the Creator and Jesus. Lots of people talk about the Holy Spirit, but I've not seen many who attempt a description. In my own experience, so many who I have encountered describe a condemning, punishing Creator yet I encounter one who shows kindness and care for me. Can it be that mean people who decide to be religious, create a mean God for themselves?

It is impossible to describe the suffering I have seen in the world. So much so that doing all that is possible to follow the will of God in all that is done is all that is acceptable.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I hope that you continue to feel confident of your position. It's been 13 years for me, and it now seems clear that I took an action that is not completely defensible. Peace unto you.

Thanks. God bless you and I hope you find peace with God and yourself.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I believe the moment you legitimize your sin for your self by your own opinion you cease to be a Christian and any congregation that would accept you on that basis is apostate.

And I believe that your opinion on it doesn't matter to me since you are not God and my relationship with Him is none of your business. You are not even a friend of mine I talk to or a member of the clergy I seek pastoral care from so there's no way for you to make such a pronouncement. Worry about your own soul first.

Shoot, even the Catholic Church doesn't go as far as to declare LGBT Christians as apostates. Sinning Christians, maybe, but still Christians. You sound like an extremist. Your church must be pretty empty.

 

[Prestor John]

Except I don't agree that homosexuality or being trans is sinful. I'm way past the stage of agonizing over that. I'm totally fine with my sexual orientation and have already transitioned to male so the next step is finding a church community that accepts me.

I wish you the best, but why do you care to go to a church at all when you reject very crucial elements of humanity and God Himself?

You feel that it is ok to pick and choose?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I wish you the best, but why do you care to go to a church at all when you reject very crucial elements of humanity and God Himself?

You feel that it is ok to pick and choose?

I decided not to go to church as I don't believe in Christian theology, but I have no idea what you're talking about you sat I "reject very crucial elements of humanity".

Pretty much all of you who claim to be Christians pick and choose, so let's not be hypocritical.

 

[Prestor John]

I decided not to go to church as I don't believe in Christian theology, but I have no idea what you're talking about you sat I "reject very crucial elements of humanity".

I thought you were an ex-Catholic going to an Episcopal church in order to worship and partake of the Sacraments.

My comment about humanity and God were from a strictly Biblical/Christian perspective.

Basically, if the Christian God declares that homosexuality is a sin, why do you have the desire to continue to worship Him, while you (as an actively homosexual individual) live in defiance of what He has declared?

Pretty much all of you who claim to be Christians pick and choose, so let's not be hypocritical.

You could say that Christians, in general, are guilty of this, but don't assume too much about me personally.

You shared a personal example so I am asking a personal question.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I thought you were an ex-Catholic going to an Episcopal church in order to worship and partake of the Sacraments.

My comment about humanity and God were from a strictly Biblical/Christian perspective.

Basically, if the Christian God declares that homosexuality is a sin, why do you have the desire to continue to worship Him, while you (as an actively homosexual individual) live in defiance of what He has declared?

You could say that Christians, in general, are guilty of this, but don't assume too much about me personally.

You shared a personal example so I am asking a personal question.

My experience with that deity was not of one that had a problem with my sexuality.