Christians: Just What is in it for You?

[Kemosloby]

Christians, Just what is in your faith for you? What do you get out of worshipping the one you do? Otherwise, why do you worship the one you do?

Life after death, eternal life, The resurrection which Christ promised to those who believe in him. As Paul says " If there is no resurrection of the dead then our preaching is useless and so is your faith" and if there is no resurrection "Eat and drink i.e.( live it up) for tomorrow we die"

 

[rusra02]

So in the meantime---thousands of years---the earth is left to go to pot, with millions upon millions of people left to live and die amid its problems. Nice guy.


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This was man's doing, and Satan's doing, not God's. Even now, the vast majority of mankind's woes are self-administered, IMO. Blaming God is unjust, in my view.

 

[Kemosloby]

This was man's doing, and Satan's doing, not God's. Even now, the vast majority of mankind's woes are self-administered, IMO. Blaming God is unjust, in my view.

The world is messed up but we won't be here long, then God will come to ressurect those who had faith in him into eternal dwelling places. 2000 years ago they said it would be a long time as we count slowness, but "The Lord is not slow at keeping his promise, He is patient, not wanting any to perish but all to come to repentence, with the Lord a day is like 1000 years and 1000 years like a day.

 

[atpollard]

Christians, Just what is in your faith for you? What do you get out of worshiping the one you do? Otherwise, why do you worship the one you do?

A complete transformation from within (although, technically, transformation preceded the worship. Worship just gives me the warm fuzzies after the fact).
Why do you love your parents? What do you get out of it? Why not love some other old person instead?

 

[atpollard]

I mean, if healthcare administrators are aware of unethical things and say "hey, we'll get around to it", I can almost guarantee that at some point, they'll end up with their licenses revoked and maybe some prison time if there is justice in the world. If we in the healthcare field can be demanded to respond to issues promptly, surely God can.

Good luck prosecuting that case and enforcing legal action against the Creator. (It didn't go so well when Lucifer tried).

 

[Kemosloby]

A complete transformation from within (although, technically, transformation preceded the worship. Worship just gives me the warm fuzzies after the fact).
Why do you love your parents? What do you get out of it? Why not love some other old person instead?

Great question. In the physical sense what's the difference between loving your parents and loving some old stranger. But it seems to be the nature of things that people love their parents more. An invisible bond, and God is the creator of both the seen and unseen. God says honor your mother and father. And God is our Father in heaven. So perhaps the only explanation is that God wants it that way.

 

[Skwim]

This was man's doing, and Satan's doing, not God's. Even now, the vast majority of mankind's woes are self-administered, IMO. Blaming God is unjust, in my view.

No one's blaming God for Earth's condition. We aren't talking about whose responsibility it was for mucking up the earth, but who's supposed to fix it.

In post 2 you said:

" Knowing the truth about what happens when we die and the hope for the dead. Not having to rely on the politicians to fix earth's problems."
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To which I replied in post 6:

"Assuming you're relying on god to fix earth's problems, what do you think he's waiting for?"
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To which you replied in post 9:

"I believe the Bible teaches God has an appointed time to end man's mismanagement of the earth." ​

Indicating that you are relying on God to fix earth's problems. Let's stay on track and not make this more difficult than necessary.


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[URAVIP2ME]

mean·time
(mēn′tīm′)
n. The time between one occurrence and another; an interval.
adv. During a period of intervening time; meanwhile.​

The interval/intervening time being between the first occurrence of humans and no
So in the meantime---thousands of years---the earth is left to go to pot, with millions upon millions of people left to live and die amid its problems. Nice guy.

The ' first occurrence ' takes place in our day, or time frame, as our time is the setting for Revelation 1:10

If Adam and Eve had No children we simply would have never been born.
The passing of time has allowed for us to be born and think who we would like as Sovereign over us.
If everyone on Earth lived by the Golden Rule and Jesus 'new' commandment - John 13:34-35 - then would earth's problems be as they are today. Isn't it man who has dominated man to man's hurt or injury ? - Ecclesiastes 8:9 B

 

[URAVIP2ME]

The world is messed up but we won't be here long, then God will come to ressurect those who had faith in him into eternal dwelling places. 2000 years ago they said it would be a long time as we count slowness, but "The Lord is not slow at keeping his promise, He is patient, not wanting any to perish but all to come to repentence, with the Lord a day is like 1000 years and 1000 years like a day.

The 'world of badness' won't be here long ( or much longer) because Jesus, as Prince of Peace, will usher in global Peace on Earth among men of goodwill. The wicked will be gone forever - Psalms 92:7; Psalms 37:10-11; Proverbs 2:21-22. Mankind will be healed - Revelation 22:2 - The humble meek will inherit the Earth - Matthew 5:5

 

[Kemosloby]

The 'world of badness' won't be here long ( or much longer) because Jesus, as Prince of Peace, will usher in global Peace on Earth among men of goodwill. The wicked will be gone forever - Psalms 92:7; Psalms 37:10-11; Proverbs 2:21-22. Mankind will be healed - Revelation 22:2 - The humble meek will inherit the Earth - Matthew 5:5

No, that's probably what the devil is telling you. The anti-christ is supposed to make a peace deal, he'll come as a peacemaker. When Christ comes back it will be as in 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar, the elements will be dissolved in the fire, and the earth and its works will not be found.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

No, that's probably what the devil is telling you. The anti-christ is supposed to make a peace deal, he'll come as a peacemaker. When Christ comes back it will be as in 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar, the elements will be dissolved in the fire, and the earth and its works will not be found.

Where does Scripture teach as one person being 'The' anti-christ ?
1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 mentions ' they ' (powers that be) will be saying, "Peace and Security " as the precursor to the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14.

False clergy seat themselves in the ' temple' (houses of worship) as if they are God when in reality they are anti-God
- 2 Thessalonians 2:3-8

 

[savagewind]

Christians, Just what is in your faith for you?

My faith makes my life much more interesting.

What do you get out of worshipping the one you do?

I do not know that God would call what I do worship.

Otherwise, why do you worship the one you do?

If indeed what I do is worship God, I worship because to do so, I believe, is to go forward and up, which makes sense to me.

The God I worship (if that is what I do) is the best of everything, is timeless and is indestructible.
It makes sense that I should side with such a Spirit. I think it is crazy that most people don't.

 

[Kemosloby]

Where does Scripture teach as one person being 'The' anti-christ ?
1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 mentions ' they ' (powers that be) will be saying, "Peace and Security " as the precursor to the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14.

False clergy seat themselves in the ' temple' (houses of worship) as if they are God when in reality they are anti-God
- 2 Thessalonians 2:3-8

A couple places. " Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light" so we know Satan masquerades as a good guy, as well as his servants. 2 cor. 11:14

Then the lawless one is a sole man. " For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work, but the one who now restrains it will continue until he is taken out of the way. 8Andthen the lawless one will be revealed, whomthe Lord Jesus will slay with the breath of Hismouth and abolish by the majesty of Hisarrival. 9The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and false wonder,…2 thessalonians 2:8

And their warning is that he will try to make you believe the day of the Lord has already come

ot to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come.

 

[12jtartar]

Christians, Just what is in your faith for you? What do you get out of worshipping the one you do? Otherwise, why do you worship the one you do?

ThirtyThree,
You have asked a very good question, why would a person worship any so-called god unless there was a good reason??
You are not the first person to ask this question, consider what is said at Malachi 3:14,5. The Almighty answers, Malachi 3:16-18.
God's original purpose for the earth has not changed, Genesis 1:26-26. God created man to live forever on earth, in an earthly paradise, Isaiah 45:18. Look at verse 19, where God says that He does not expect people to worship Him for nothing, or in vain.
The reason that earth is in such a terrible condition today, is because The Almighty Creator is not the ruler of the earth, God has turned rulership over to Satan, because Adam and Eve rebelled against God, John 12:31, 14:30, 16:11, 2Corinthins 4:3,4, 1John 5:19, Revelation 12:9.
All mankind was without hope, but Jesus came to give his life as a Ransom Sacrifice for us, so that we could receive the same blessings that Adam and Eve had before they rebelled against God, Matthew 20:28, 1Timothy 2:3-6, Romans 6:23.
Because Jesus came to earth to give his life for us, God has given him the rule over the earth, and Jesus will judge the earth, and remove any people who do not love his Father, and him, Acts 17:24-31, John 5:22,26-29, Matthew 25:31-46, 2Thessalonians 1:6-10.
There are many Scriptures in he Bible that tell about the paradise that God will set up after the earth is cleansed of all wicked people, Revelation 21:3-5, Isaiah 35:1-7, 65:17-25.

 

[savagewind]

The reason that earth is in such a terrible condition today,

Is because people teach lies about God

God has turned rulership over to Satan,

God did that? How do you know that satan didn't take it? There is a difference between being given something like you say God gave satan the rule (then we should respect that and OBEY) and God is allowing it just like God allows sin (and we should fight it).

All mankind was without hope,

This is something else you are making up. It is written that we are subjects of futility but there is lots of hope. How dare you take away people's hope? 1 Corinthians 13:13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

There are many Scriptures in he Bible that tell about the paradise that God will set up after the earth is cleansed of all wicked people, Revelation 21:3-5, Isaiah 35:1-7, 65:17-25.

This is so very disgusting. Even though it is written that God's original purpose is for humankind to make Earth a paradise, YOU say it isn't possible and that God will set it up. Not only do you give the job back to God Who Is Resting but you say God's only son will do the cleaning up for it. And you call yourselves MEEK?

 

[savagewind]

I know they (Jehovah's Witnesses) call themselves meek. They go even further than that and they call themselves, "the truth".

It is written that the meek shall inherit the earth.

New World Translation: 5 “Happy are the mild-tempered,*+ since they will inherit the earth.+

They say that if you will live your life their way, God will make the way for you to get to Paradise Earth.

(I am not making this up. It is all true)

They do not know that what might have been written originally is that, "blessed are the gentle ones for they are the inheritors of the earth."

That means violence will cause Earth's destruction, so anyone who is for it will not be considered an inheritor.

Just so you know, there is a difference between being named an inheritor and actually inheriting anything.

 

[savagewind]

There will be silence @ThirtyThree because forum has a feature which caused the elimination of people who have arguments against people's cherished opinions.

Even though, the one to be cherished is The Righteous One Who Is Called "God" and that it is written YOU shall have no other against God.

Does anyone else see how they put their opinions ahead of everything else?

Anyway, to a lot of people here, maybe even you, I do not exist.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Good luck prosecuting that case and enforcing legal action against the Creator. (It didn't go so well when Lucifer tried).

Yahweh is from the House of El, per Canaanite mythology. So, even Yahweh must listen to El, the High God, says.

If Adam and Eve had No children we simply would have never been born.

The first man was made out of dirt. No birth required. So, how does any of that follow?

The 'world of badness' won't be here long ( or much longer) because Jesus, as Prince of Peace, will usher in global Peace on Earth among men of goodwill.

For 1000 years. Then it's back to normal, I guess.

o, that's probably what the devil is telling you. The anti-christ is supposed to make a peace deal, he'll come as a peacemaker. When Christ comes back it will be as in 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar, the elements will be dissolved in the fire, and the earth and its works will not be found

So, Jesus is from Team Rocket: To denounce the evils of truth and love ...

 

[URAVIP2ME]

The first man was made out of dirt. No birth required. So, how does any of that follow?
For 1000 years. Then it's back to normal, I guess.
So, Jesus is from Team Rocket: To denounce the evils of truth and love ...

How about Team Angels ? ______ - Revelation 19:14

True, Adam (and Eve) had No birth required, but the rest of us fall under the category of Genesis 1:28.

What we consider as ' normal ' today is the selfish distorted form of love described at 2 Timothy 3:1-5,13
Which is the opposite of godly love as defined at 1 Corinthians 13:4-6.
Since the wicked will be ' destroyed forever' - Psalms 92:7 - then ' normal ' will be righteousness on Earth.
The righteous will have leanings only toward righteousness forever and ever.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

A couple places. " Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light" so we know Satan masquerades as a good guy, as well as his servants. 2 cor. 11:14
Then the lawless one is a sole man. " For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work, but the one who now restrains it will continue until he is taken out of the way. 8Andthen the lawless one will be revealed, whomthe Lord Jesus will slay with the breath of Hismouth and abolish by the majesty of Hisarrival. 9The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and false wonder,…2 thessalonians 2:8
And their warning is that he will try to make you believe the day of the Lord has already come
ot to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come.

Doesn't gospel writer Luke mention a great falling-away anti-Christ apostasy at Acts of the Apostles 20:29-30, and Paul at 1 Timothy 4:1-3; 2 Timothy 4:3-4, besides Peter at 2 Peter 2:1-3 which would be on-going from the end of the 1st century until Jesus takes the action of Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-16; 2 Thessalonians 2:8 when the executional words from Jesus' mouth will rid the earth of the wicked forever - Psalms 92:7

So, the great anti-Christ apostasy started at the end of the 1st century and the ' wheat ' and the ' weed/tares' continue until the 'harvest time', or the soon coming 'time of separation' of Matthew 25:31-33,37.

That ' man ' and ' son ' of 2 Thessalonians 2:3 is thus a composite man/son and Not one person.
Who seat themselves in the 'temple' ( houses of worship ) but false clergy thus making up that composite person.
-2 Thessalonians 2:4.
The false clergy class sitting in the 'temple' (houses of worship) showing himself that he is 'God' when in reality he is 'anti-God'.

The final signal, so to speak, is when ' they ' (collective powers that be) will be saying, " Peace and Safety" or "Peace and Security " as the precursor to the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14.
-1 Thessalonians 5:2-3