Christians: Kill family who mentions other beliefs to you?

[Meow Mix]

"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;

Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage” (Deuteronomy 13:6-10, KJV).

Can any Christians help me understand the context of this?

 

[lunamoth]

It was written during a period of conservative reform of Temple-based worship when Judah was dealing with, and trying to purge, idolatrous practices mainly of Assyrian origin during the reign of Josiah.

 

[Smoke]

Can any Christians help me understand the context of this?

It's so unfair of you to imply that Christians apply the scriptures selectively.

The Christian point of view is that you can ignore the entire Old Testament and most of the New, except for those parts that can be construed as condemning homosexuality. I think you'll find that most Christians are remarkably consistent in their application of this principle.

 

[ChristineES]

Why do you keep throwing OT verses at us? You know Christians don't follow those rules, because at least some of us believe that Jesus fulfilled the Law. That some of them still quote some of them for their own beliefs isn't right, either.

 

[McBell]

Can any Christians help me understand the context of this?

It was written during a period of conservative reform of Temple-based worship when Judah was dealing with, and trying to purge, idolatrous practices mainly of Assyrian origin during the reign of Josiah.

Why do you keep throwing OT verses at us? You know Christians don't follow those rules, because at least some of us believe that Jesus fulfilled the Law. That some of them still quote some of them for their own beliefs isn't right, either.

So far, it looks like a big fat "NO".

 

[Mister Emu]

Firstly, it wouldn't be kill family who mention other beliefs to you, but kill family who entice you to worship other Gods...

and secondly, as Jesus said: "let he who is without sin cast the first stone." In other words we should not condemn someone to death.

 

[McBell]

THOU SHALT NOT KILL


unless god commands it....

 

[Mister Emu]

Thou shalt not murder

 

[McBell]

Thou shalt not murder

PSSSST!...
you forgot:

unless god commands it....​

 

[Mister Emu]

If God commands it, it is not murder

 

[McBell]

If God commands it, it is not murder

For with whatever judgment you judge, you shall be judged; and with whatever measure you measure out, it shall be measured to you again.
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One wonders why so many people do not hold god to his own standards.

 

[kai]

"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;

Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage” (Deuteronomy 13:6-10, KJV).

Can any Christians help me understand the context of this?

Thats Old testament stuff ,before God turned liberal in the new testament

 

[Sententia]

If God commands it, it is not murder

Said the terrorists? Said the 9/11 pilots? Said the people drowning or burning witches? If god commands it... Says who? Says what?

This is a ridiculous statement.

God can neither be proven or disproven but if someone kills because their god told them too then it is not murder?

It absolutely is because god still can not be proven or disproven.

If you killed someone and consider it not murder because your god who can neither be proven or disproven told you too then you are clearly wrong.

 

[Smoke]

Why do you keep throwing OT verses at us? You know Christians don't follow those rules, because at least some of us believe that Jesus fulfilled the Law.

Mighty strange, then, how Christians -- not you of course -- keep throwing them at us.

 

[outhouse]

Thats Old testament stuff ,before God turned liberal in the new testament

Now that funny right there no matter how you look at it lol :seesaw:

 

[Smoke]

Thats Old testament stuff ,before God turned liberal in the new testament

The liberal beneficence of the New Testament God, as compared to the Old Testament God, is vastly overrated. All that stuff about hellfire and weeping and gnashing of teeth comes from the New Testament.

 

[kai]

The liberal beneficence of the New Testament God, as compared to the Old Testament God, is vastly overrated. All that stuff about hellfire and weeping and gnashing of teeth comes from the New Testament.

i believe the death penalty for various "crimes" was repealed though in favour of turning the other cheek. although i am no expert on Gods manifesto changes throughout history.

 

[Father Heathen]

So how exactly do we determine what bits of scripture are still relevant and which bits of scripture only applied during the time and place it was written? If the bible is supposed to be God's word, perfect and eternal, then why would he allow it to be muddled with the irrelevant and unjust cultural norms of primitive mortals? In fact, why would he allow human culture to supersede his righteousness in some regards (slavery), but not others (homosexuality)? And if the OT was abolished by Jesus in the NT, then why are the Ten Commandments still touted?

 

[Madhuri]

And if the OT was abolished by Jesus in the NT, then why are the Ten Commandments still touted?

Pretty sure Jesus came to uphold the older scriptures, according to the NT.

 

[kai]

So how exactly do we determine what bits of scripture are still relevant and which bits of scripture only applied during the time and place it was written? If the bible is supposed to be God's word, perfect and eternal, then why would he allow it to be muddled with the irrelevant and unjust cultural norms of primitive mortals? In fact, why would he allow human culture to supersede his righteousness in some regards (slavery), but not others (homosexuality)?

And if the OT was abolished by Jesus in the NT, then why are the Ten Commandments still touted

?

I think they can still be found in the NT all except the sabbath one.