Christians Only (not really): What do you think about that Jewish text?

[ForeverFaithful]

But they are only poetry. To sing in the temple to worship god.

Which is why they are not prophecy.

Maybe in the Jewish view point,

However Christ drew a lot his authority from the psalms and as Christians we have the right to reinterpret

 

[JacobEzra.]

Maybe in the Jewish view point,

However Christ drew a lot his authority from the psalms and as Christians we have the right to reinterpret

Who wrote the psalms?

And what gives christians the "right"?

 

[Desert Snake]

This, too, but also ignorance and thoughtlessness and stuff, I guess.
The thing is, most Christians aren't Jews, but because it's in our canon they think that they have the right to interpret it better than anyone else, including the people it was actually revealed to. Yeah, I don't get it either.

Totally ridiculous. Some of the best writings on the Bible are authored by Christians.

 

[Desert Snake]

This, too, but also ignorance and thoughtlessness and stuff, I guess.
The thing is, most Christians aren't Jews, but because it's in our canon they think that they have the right to interpret it better than anyone else, including the people it was actually revealed to. Yeah, I don't get it either.

It was revealed to the Hebrews, not just people who happen to practice Judaism. Get your facts straight.

 

[Desert Snake]

Who wrote the psalms?

And what gives christians the "right"?

Anybody has the "right" to interpret the Bible. Just as the reader has the "right" to judge the validity of the interpretation.

 

[Desert Snake]

Because psalms and songs are just writings. Not prophetic ones, just poetry wnd worship.

Personally, id hope your wrong about songs talking of Jesus. Seems to xxx for talking about someone whose supposed to be pure sinless lamb lol

not everyone believes that, and Psalms and Songs is still sacred literature. You don't have to put any value in it, that's fine with me.

 

[JacobEzra.]

Anybody has the "right" to interpret the Bible. Just as the reader has the "right" to judge the validity of the interpretation.

So Saudis are allowed to take the constitution and interperate it without any consideration for the American tradition of interpretating it?
(Okay, not the best exampke, but you know what I mean)

 

[JacobEzra.]

not everyone believes that, and Psalms and Songs is still sacred literature. You don't have to put any value in it, that's fine with me.

Who says they are not valuable? Just cause they are not prophetic doesn't make them worthless. My fav is ecc

 

[Desert Snake]

So Saudis are allowed to take the constitution and interperate it without any consideration for the American tradition of interpretating it?
(Okay, not the best exampke, but you know what I mean)

Completely different, that's not even applicable to what we're talking about. The constitution is upheld by gov and laws......that's a silly comparison..

 

[Desert Snake]

Who says they are not valuable? Just cause they are not prophetic doesn't make them worthless. My fav is ecc

ah, no big deal, I thought you were devaluing scripture because of content.

 

[ForeverFaithful]

Who wrote the psalms?

And what gives christians the "right"?

The fact that, if Jesus was the Christ, the Jews clearly missed something in their scripture, and now that we have the Revelation of the New Testament and the Holy Spirit we are free to reinterpret the Old Testament,

 

[JacobEzra.]

Completely different, that's not even applicable to what we're talking about. The constitution is upheld by gov and laws......that's a silly comparison..

The point is still there.

Insert something that is onoy american, now that thing is copied, reinterpretated and then pushed to be more authoritive then the original.

 

[JacobEzra.]

The fact that, if Jesus was the Christ, the Jews clearly missed something in their scripture, and now that we have the Revelation of the New Testament and the Holy Spirit we are free to reinterpret the Old Testament,

So foreigners, strangers are more capable of interpreting a peoples scripture?

Ik actually with Bob on this. You can't take something, reinterpretate it without consideration of the older, original interpretation, and then push it wuthoritiveauthoritive.

 

[Desert Snake]

The point is still there.

Insert something that is onoy american, now that thing is copied, reinterpretated and then pushed to be more authoritive then the original.

that kind of thing happens regardless, we just have to be discriminating enough to tell what's accurate or not.

 

[ForeverFaithful]

So foreigners, strangers are more capable of interpreting a peoples scripture?

Ik actually with Bob on this. You can't take something, reinterpretate it without consideration of the older, original interpretation, and then push it wuthoritiveauthoritive.

Jesus' Sermon on the Mount is based on a radical reinterpretation of Jewish scriptures,

We have a New Covenant,

 

[Desert Snake]

So foreigners, strangers are more capable of interpreting a peoples scripture?

Ik actually with Bob on this. You can't take something, reinterpretate it without consideration of the older, original interpretation, and then push it wuthoritiveauthoritive.

That's just not realistic in regards to Christian authors on the Bible or Judaica. And remember, anybody can be biased.

 

[JacobEzra.]

that kind of thing happens regardless, we just have to be discriminating enough to tell what's accurate or not.

Well whatever I guess.

I need to sleep. Big day full of medical terminology and endless lectures.

 

[Flankerl]

Maybe in the Jewish view point,

However Christ drew a lot his authority from the psalms and as Christians we have the right to reinterpret

Good for you.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

It is not at all uncommon: Someone poses a question about Jewish text in a Christian only forum. Is it simply ignorance? Thoughtlessness? What?

Just to be clear: there was nothing in the OP that suggested or was intended to suggest that Christians have no right to interpret Jewish text. Nor do I believe that being Christian precludes the possibility of having meaningful insights about the text or of making significant contributions to relevant scholarship.

The OP was not about who was invited to the table but, rather, who was (perhaps thoughtlessly) excluded from it.

 

[Tarheeler]

I think it happens primarily because of influence and ignorance.

It probably happens most often because Christians, out ofthe religiois groups, have the greatest influence on society and government, at least in the west. And people want to know how they see things because of it. It's the viewpoint that they are going to come into contact with most often, and it will be the one that has the greatest effect on their outlook.

And I say ignorance because I think that most people assume that Christians and Jews understand scripture the same way; a co-worker recently told me that Christians are "just Jews who believe in Jesus". And, sadly enough, this is the position held by most people I discuss religion with face-to-face. I don't think it is willful ignorance, but it is still there.