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You want a fact of the day? Everything in the Gospels are accounts of men. Jesus' words were recorded by men. Yes, that's right, even His words are part of the accounts of men. The fish and the loaves are an account of men. Everything you believe about Jesus ultimately comes from an account of men. Cold, hard reality.
How many times would He have had to say that He had a body before it would be enough times? He had His Apostles feel the wounds in his hands and side. We have at least that evidence that He had a physical body at one point after His resurrection, while we have no evidence whatsoever that He shed it at some point.
Really? Well, that's up to you. I would, however, be even more careful to draw conclusions about the nature of Christ from zero scriptures than I would be to do so from just one.
Could you please define a "spirit body." If you believe we will have such a body, what do you see it as being like?
As much as it pains me to say this, I agree with you.
John 3:6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.
As I tried to state previously, but perhaps failed to adequately succeed at, a spirit can inhabit a physical body, so the two need not be mutually exclusive. I think you are thinking of "physical" as meaning "mortal." While a mortal body is subject to disease, disfigurment, death and decay, and immortal body is not. Flesh doesn't have to be subject to any of these things. It is, as long as we are mortal, but it isn't once we've been resurrected and become immortal.
What kinds of things do you love and desire?
Umm... you're going to have to explain that one to me.
Well, I certainly didn't mean to ask something you see as inappropriate. And as far as being off-topic, this thread took off on several tangents a long, long time ago. I'll tell you the reason I ask...I shall admit that is surely off topic.
I wonder why a stranger on forum might ask such a thing. but....still off topic.
To try to imagine Heaven without my husband's touch or my mother's smile... well it would simply be impossible for me.
Welcome to the forum, (and to the thread that has essentially been hijacked by a discussion of a different nature).
Actually, I was interested in digging deep into the doctrine of the Trinity, as I think what you see in the church today as dogma is really a very literalistic, watered down look at something the church wrestled with to speak to something far more esoteric. And then of course you had the later interpretations of this which got those like Sabellius and Arius, coming out with their own spins on their own understandings of what the Trinitarian schools of thought were saying (which missed the point, I feel), responding with such things as Modalism, etc. I'd love to go down an deep exploration of these things, but alas, we're arguing over such silliness as does a resurrected body get hungry and feel pain if pricked!Welcome to the forum, (and to the thread that has essentially been hijacked by a discussion of a different nature).
