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Christians, why do you hate Gays?

dgirl1986

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The interesting thing about Yahweh is that he doesn't feel obliged to fully explain himself to everybody. He expects people to take his word for it. See the story of Adam and Eve. Yahweh said "if you eat this you will die". The Devil said "no you won't, you'll become like God." Yahewy didn't bother to prove it to them. He expected them to trust him.

Basically he did not tell them truth. He told them they would die because he did not want them to eat it.
 

romana03

Member
Just a thought: Who are "Gays" anyway? Do we label people "Straights"? Someone's sexual orientation is only one facet of the microcosm that constitutes that person. It seems like we're trying to pigeonhole an individual's complexity into very narrow categories.

I hate the term "gays". The way it is used feels very homophobic to me. I am gay, or a gay person, or (my personal preference) a lesbian. Just using "gays" with no qualifier is dehumanising. Gay people would have been better in the thread title, imo.
 

-Peacemaker-

.45 Cal
Basically he did not tell them truth. He told them they would die because he did not want them to eat it.

The death was a spiritual one meaning a separation from God. They were banished from his presence. The result of eating the fruit was indeed what he promised.
 

Drolefille

PolyPanGeekGirl
If what they believe is actually a path to find salvation then I would say that a failure notify me of that path is a failure to love me
But notification isn't enough. You know about it now, and aren't following it! Clearly you should be forced into it. Don't you want me to tell you every day about how my path to salvation is right and yours is wrong? Or again, is it only YOUR beliefs that should be browbeaten into others?



And if all it is is "notification" that is required: There is no gay adult who doesn't know that many Christians disapprove of being gay. Consider your notification done. Message received, to delete press 7, to save press 9. "7"
 

Me Myself

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The interesting thing about Yahweh is that he doesn't feel obliged to fully explain himself to everybody. He expects people to take his word for it.

Not very omniscient of him.

TSee the story of Adam and Eve. Yahweh said "if you eat this you will die". The Devil said "no you won't, you'll become like God." Yahewy didn't bother to prove it to them. He expected them to trust him.

Again, not very omniscient from him.

But I found this funny:

Me: Don´t eat that apple. It will hurt you

Snake: He lied to you, he doesn´t want you to eat the apple because it is tasty and he wants to be the only one tasting tasty things!

Adam: *eats the apple and taste it´s tastiness.*

Adam: Hey! But I don´t feel hur... *I hit Adam in the face with a bat and he falls to the floor in pain*

Me: told you it would hurt. Should have trusted me man.
 

Drolefille

PolyPanGeekGirl
The interesting thing about Yahweh is that he doesn't feel obliged to fully explain himself to everybody. He expects people to take his word for it. See the story of Adam and Eve. Yahweh said "if you eat this you will die". The Devil said "no you won't, you'll become like God." Yahewy didn't bother to prove it to them. He expected them to trust him.
And that's why I find Yahweh to be something of a jerk.

Language subdued due to filters.
 

Straw Dog

Well-Known Member
I hate the term "gays". The way it is used feels very homophobic to me. I am gay, or a gay person, or (my personal preference) a lesbian. Just using "gays" with no qualifier is dehumanising. Gay people would have been better in the thread title, imo.

Yeah, it's kind of the same thing with "blacks", "whites", etc. We tend to fixate too much on superficial differences or we seek to impose a monoculture of how we think everyone should be. People keep trying to control nature without realizing that nature tends toward diversity. It's a futile effort and they'll never have their ideal monoculture, ever. Perhaps it's better to appreciate individuals as they are rather than always comparing them to some ideal human nature that doesn't exist.
 

Me Myself

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I hate the term "gays". The way it is used feels very homophobic to me. I am gay, or a gay person, or (my personal preference) a lesbian. Just using "gays" with no qualifier is dehumanising. Gay people would have been better in the thread title, imo.

most gays I know disagree with you just for the record.
 

-Peacemaker-

.45 Cal
But notification isn't enough. You know about it now, and aren't following it! Clearly you should be forced into it. Don't you want me to tell you every day about how my path to salvation is right and yours is wrong? Or again, is it only YOUR beliefs that should be browbeaten into others?



And if all it is is "notification" that is required: There is no gay adult who doesn't know that many Christians disapprove of being gay. Consider your notification done. Message received, to delete press 7, to save press 9. "7"

People are constantly telling me what they believe is the path to salvation. Practically everyone in this thread is doing it right now. There are two sides to this argument and everyone here has taken their side. One side says God is angered by this behavior, the other says he isn't. Sure the latter argument is usually presented with a bunch of bells and whistles but it can boiled down to something simple.
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
People are constantly telling me what they believe is the path to salvation. Practically everyone in this thread is doing it right now. There are two sides to this argument and everyone here has taken their side. One side says God is angered by this behavior, the other says he isn't. Sure the latter argument is usually presented with a bunch of bells and whistles but it can boiled down to something simple.
Yeah, but you're the one arguing that tolerance toward minorities is indicative of hatred.
 

-Peacemaker-

.45 Cal
Yeah, but you're the one arguing that tolerance toward minorities is indicative of hatred.

I contended that justification of these behaviors is a hateful. Maybe your definition of "justification" is different than mine. I don't define it as peacebly disagreeing with people. I define as approving of something.
 

Drolefille

PolyPanGeekGirl
People are constantly telling me what they believe is the path to salvation. Practically everyone in this thread is doing it right now. There are two sides to this argument and everyone here has taken their side. One side says God is angered by this behavior, the other says he isn't. Sure the latter argument is usually presented with a bunch of bells and whistles but it can boiled down to something simple.
Actually no, I haven't told you a thing about the path to salvation.

And there are far more sides than that. Like the one that says your god doesn't exist, or the one that says even if your god exists his opinion isn't relevant. But none of that is the point.

You're really just proving the hyperbolic OP of the thread though. So again, consider the entire LGBT population notified of your disapproval and your belief in your god's disapproval. We get it, so you can shush now.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
To be fair though, Jungle hasn´t shown any hate towards homosexuals.

Just really acute misinformation of fundamental topics that would help him chanalize his loves for them in a way that actually helps them instead of makes troubles for them.
 

-Peacemaker-

.45 Cal
Actually no, I haven't told you a thing about the path to salvation.

And there are far more sides than that. Like the one that says your god doesn't exist, or the one that says even if your god exists his opinion isn't relevant. But none of that is the point.

These are all variations of the same argument. That God is not angered by this behavior.
 

Drolefille

PolyPanGeekGirl
These are all variations of the same argument. That God is not angered by this behavior.
No, one states God isn't real. the other that God can be angry all he wants but it doesn't matter when it comes to our rights.

BTW, what if you're wrong? Just curious. What if you didn't listen to yahweh when he was not telling you everything and you were wrong? Is that even possible?

And Me: Someone who thinks that my sexual encounters need justification or shouldn't be supported equally is showing bigotry which is tied closely with hate. Oppressing others is hatred.
 

Me Myself

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NAnd Me: Someone who thinks that my sexual encounters need justification or shouldn't be supported equally is showing bigotry which is tied closely with hate. Oppressing others is hatred.

hate is an emotion. If he does not wish you harm for harm´s sake he does not have the emotion called "hate".

To what I see, he thinks it is for the best of you, so if he felt so in a more passionate or tender way it could perfectly be called love. Terribly inaccurate in it´s execution, but love nonetheless.
 
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