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Clear prophecy in the Bible about prophet Muhammad

Tumah

Veteran Member
I'm not suggesting that there are 2 gods worthy of worship, just that an eternally existing evil that exists outside of Ahura Mazda's creation would (perhaps) not meet a pure definition of monotheism from certain religious perspectives.

It's a bit technical for my paltry level of knowledge though, so I'm not going to pretend I have a great understanding of what differentiates dualism from monotheism.

@Tumah how is the existence of 'evil' viewed in Judaism? Is it possible for anything to exist outside of that which was created by God?
To answer backwards, no, everything in existence was created by G-d. To the best of my understanding, evil is everything not in the direction of G-d from whatever point you're standing. If you look at creation as rungs in a ladder ascending infinitely, wherever you happen to be on the ladder, below you is evil and above you is good. Maybe there's a certain rung which is the lower most rung that the worst person might stand at, while the ladder may continue to descend so for out purposes at that point evil has a more objective element relative to us. But that's about it, according to my limited understanding.

As to an additional entity aside from a creator god. According to some (very some) opinions, partnership is permissible to non-Jews. Generally applied to the doctrine of the trinity, it might be relevant here too. Also, if that other entity isn't worshiped, it becomes more acceptable.
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
Isaiah 45:7
Who forms light and creates darkness, Who makes peace and creates evil; I am the Lord, Who makes all these.
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
Your link might have been censored, it was wikipedia telling me there is no such page as ****uf :D

Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. Please search for ****uf in Wikipedia to check for alternative titles or spellings.
Haha, sorry!
Take out the dash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shi-tuf
 

ukok102nak

Active Member
A Psalm by Asaph.
1 God presides in the great assembly.
He judges among the gods.

Isaiah 64:7
There is none who calls on your name, who stirs up himself to take hold of you; for you have hidden your face from us, and have consumed us by means of our iniquities.
8 But now, Lord, you are our Father; we are the clay, and you our potter; and we all are the work of your hand.

~;> as it is written
:read:
Proverbs 30:3
I neither learned wisdom, nor have the knowledge of the holy.
4 Who has ascended up into heaven, or descended? who has gathered the wind in his fists? who has bound the waters in a garment? who has established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if you can tell?

Psalms 74:11
Why withdraw you your hand, even your right hand? pluck it out of your bosom.
12 For God is my King of old, working salvation in the midst of the earth.
13 You did divide the sea by your strength: you brake the heads of the dragons in the waters.
14 You brake the heads of leviathan a in pieces, and gave him to be food to the people inhabiting the wilderness.
15 You did cleave the fountain and the flood: you dried up mighty rivers.
16 The day is yours, the night also is yours: you have prepared the light and the sun.
17 You have set all the borders of the earth: you have made summer and winter.

Revelation of John 19:12
His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

Psalms 45:6
Your throne, God, is forever and ever.
A scepter of equity is the scepter of your kingdom.
7 You have loved righteousness, and hated wickedness.
Therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness above your fellows.a
8 All your garments smell like myrrh, aloes, and cassia.
Out of ivory palaces stringed instruments have made you glad.
9 Kings' daughters are among your honorable women.
At your right hand the queen stands in gold of Ophir.

Psalms 47:7
For God is the King of all the earth: sing all of you praises with understanding.
8 God reigns over the heathen: God sits upon the throne of his holiness.
9 The princes of the people are gathered together, even the people of the God of Abraham: for the shields of the earth belong unto God: he is greatly exalted.

Leviticus 26:9
"'I will have respect for you, and make you fruitful, and multiply you, and will establish my covenant with you.
10 You shall eat old store long kept, and you shall move out the old because of the new.
11 I will set my tent among you: and my soul won't abhor you.
12 I will walk among you, and will be your God, and you will be my people.a
13 I am the Lord your God, who brought you forth out of the land of Egypt, that you should not be their slaves; and I have broken the bars of your yoke, and made you go upright.

~>; now
:read: (as they say)
Psalms 90:1
Lord, you have been our dwelling place in all generations.
2 Before the mountains were brought forth, before even you had formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, you are God.
3 You turn man to destruction; and says, Return, all of you children of men.
4 For a thousand years in your sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.
5 You carry them away as with a flood; they are as a sleep: in the morning they are like grass which grows up.
6 In the morning it flourishes, and grows up; in the evening it is cut down, and withers.
7 For we are consumed by yours anger, and by your wrath are we troubled.
8 You have set our iniquities before you, our secret sins in the light of your countenance.
9 For all our days are passed away in your wrath: we spend our years as a tale that is told.

Proverbs 19:28
A corrupt witness mocks justice, and the mouth of the wicked gulps down iniquity.

Deuteronomy 9:4
Do not say in your heart, after the Lord your God has thrust them out from before you, saying, "For my righteousness the Lord has brought me in to possess this land"; because the Lord drives them out before you because of the wickedness of these nations.
5 Not for your righteousness, or for the uprightness of your heart, do you go in to possess their land; but for the wickedness of these nations the Lord your God does drive them out from before you, and that he may establish the word which the Lord swore to your fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob.

. ... so as it is written
:read: (again)
Isaiah 14:3
It will happen in the day that the Lord will give you rest from your sorrow, from your trouble, and from the hard service in which you were made to serve,
4 that you will take up this parable against the king of Babylon, and say, "How the oppressor has ceased! How the attacker has ceased!"
5 The Lord has broken the staff of the wicked, the scepter of the rulers,
6 who struck the peoples in wrath with a continual stroke, who ruled the nations in anger, with a persecution that none restrained.

Zechariah 5:5
Then the angel who talked with me came forward, and said to me, "Lift up now your eyes, and see what is this that is appearing."
6 I said, "What is it?"
He said, "This is the ephaha basket that is appearing." He said moreover, "This is their appearance in all the land
7 (and behold, a talentb of lead was lifted up); and this is a woman sitting in the midst of the ephah basket."
8 He said, "This is Wickedness;" and he threw her down into the midst of the ephah basket; and he threw the weight of lead on its mouth.
9 Then lifted I up my eyes, and saw, and behold, there were two women, and the wind was in their wings. Now they had wings like the wings of a stork, and they lifted up the ephah basket between earth and the sky.
10 Then said I to the angel who talked with me, "Where are these carrying the ephah basket?"
11 He said to me, "To build her a house in the land of Shinar. When it is prepared, she will be set there in her own place."

Daniel 12:1
“Now at that time Miḵa’ĕl shall stand up, the great head who is standing over the sons of your people. And there shall be a time of distress, such as never was since there was a nation, until that time. And at that time your people shall be delivered, every one who is found written in the book,
2 and many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth wake up, some to everlasting life, and some to reproaches, everlasting abhorrence.
3 “And those who have insight shall shine like the brightness of the expanse, and those who lead many to righteousness like the stars forever and ever.

... . also
:read: (as it is written)
Revelation of John 21:1
I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth have passed away, and the sea is no more.
2 I saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready like a bride adorned for her husband.
3 I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Behold, God's dwelling is with people, and he will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them.
4 He will wipe away from them every tear from their eyes. Death will be no more; neither will there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain, any more. The first things have passed away."
5 He who sits on the throne said, "Behold, I am making all things new. " He said,
"Write, for these words are faithful and true."

Isaiah 28:10
For it is precept on precept, precept on precept; line on line, line on line; here a little, there a little.
11 But he will speak to this nation with stammering lips and a strange language;
12 to whom he said, "This is the resting place. Give rest to weary;" and "This is the refreshing;" yet they would not hear.
13 Therefore the word of the Lord will be to them precept on precept, precept on precept; line on line, line on line; here a little, there a little; that they may go, fall backward, be broken, be snared, and be taken.

Revelation of John 7:9
After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude, which no man could number, out of every nation and of all tribes, peoples, and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands.
10 They shouted with a loud voice, saying, "Salvation be to our God, who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!"

:whistle: PERHAPS ANYONE COULD CHECK THEIR OWN VERSION OF THE BIBLE
THEN COMPARE ALL THE VERSES
THAT ARE WRITTEN HERE
IF WE MAY SAY SO


:ty:



godbless
unto all always
 
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Dale

Member
This is a prophecy about Muhammad and the book of Malachi confirms this and he's called the Messenger of the Covenant and also the desire or the praised and he comes after Jesus and John the Baptist.

First
Haggai 2 (KJV)

6 For thus saith the Lord of hosts; Yet once, it is a little while, and I will shake the heavens, and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land;

7 And I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations shall come: and I will fill this house with glory, saith the Lord of hosts.

Someone posted earlier that this means bringing Gold or riches to the Temple, this doesn't make sense, because God says I will shake all nations, how is bringing simple treasure to a Temple shaking all the nations? It means God is planning to shake the whole Hebrew and world up, by sending a Arab prophet and taking everything away from the Children of Israel and giving it to the rejected stone and making them head of the House.

9 The glory of this latter house shall be greater than of the former, saith the Lord of hosts: and in this place will I give peace, saith the Lord of hosts.

This is talking about the peace that's given to Mecca and not Israel, because there was never peace at the second Temple built, ever and Christian Scholars commentaries agree, this is talking about Mecca and the Kabba and not about Jerusalem.

Haggai 2:9 Commentaries: 'The latter glory of this house will be greater than the former,' says the LORD of hosts, 'and in this place I will give peace,' declares the LORD of hosts."

The temple itself was profaned by Antiochus Epiphanes (1 Macc. 1:39, 40). "Her sanctuary was laid waste like a wilderness. As had been her glory, so was her dishonor increased." Again by Pompey (Josephus, Ant. xiv. 4. 4. B. J. i. 7.) by Crassus (Josephus, Ant. xiv. 7. 1. B. J. i. 9. 8), the Parthians (Josephus, Ant. xiv. 13. 3. 4.) before it was destroyed by Titus and the Romans. Jews saw this and, knowing nothing of the peace in Jesus, argued from the absence of outward peace, that the prophecy was not fulfilled under the second temple.

Like i said this prophecy is talking about the peace that was given to the House of God in Becca or Mecca the Kabba and the desire or praised one he's going to shake the heavens and fulfill this prophecy and this is Muhammad and it can't be anyone else.

It also could be interpreted as giving the religion of Islam to Mecca at the House of God, or it means both peace finally in Mecca and Islam to mecca and the world.

And i will shake the nations and the praised or desire ( Muhammad ) of all nations will come and I will fill this house the ( Kabba ) with glory saith the Lord of hosts.

The glory of this latter house the( Kabba) will be greater then the previous house in Jerusalem and i will give peace to this place.


Malachi confirms 3 prophets to come, the first is John the Baptist the messenger to prepare the way for the lord Jesus the Messiah and then also the messenger of the covenant whom you desire or praise, he's also coming.

Three distinct prophets mention and the conjunction waw meaning also or and, that separates these three distinct prophets.

Links with Lexicon Hebrew grammar.

Malachi 3:1
"Look, I send my messenger, and he will prepare the way before me; and the Lord, whom you seek, will suddenly come to his temple; and the messenger of the covenant, whom you desire, look, he comes." says the LORD of hosts.

Lexicon proof. Malachi 3:1 Hebrew Text Analysis

I send
My messenger
John the Baptist

Conj Conjunction w 9999/waw ("and", "furthermore", "but"...)

and he will prepare Conj-w | V-Piel-ConjPerf-3ms
the way for the lord Jesus

Conj Conjunction w 9999/waw ("and", "furthermore", "but"...)
and suddenly Conj-w | Adv

the lord Jesus
will come
to his temple
whom
you
seek


another prophet is coming after Jesus and he's called the messenger of the covenant and the one everyone desired or praise.

Conj Conjunction w 9999/waw ("and", "furthermore", "but"...)

and or also Even the Messenger Conj-w | N-ms
of the covenant
in whom
you
desire
he comes

Also the Hebrews in the New Testament were waiting for 3 distinct prophets Elijah John the Baptist the Christ Jesus and That prophet Muhammad. John was even asked if he's one of these 3 and he said no, maybe because he didn't know he was Elijah, because Jesus said John is Elijah, in spirit and we know Jesus was the Christ, but who's the 3rd prophet the one like Moses the messenger of the covenant.


There's no interpretation needed there's 3 different prophets coming and one is called the messenger and the other is called the lord which Jesus is called lord in the New Testament and he came to the Temple of God and the last messenger is the one everyone desired or praises and he's actually called the messenger of the covenant, the last and final messenger of God Muhammad, this can't be Jesus because according to Christianity Jesus isn't a messenger he's Gods son also the conjunction also or and, comes right after the prophecy about Jesus the lord or master, so the messenger of the covenant can't be Jesus, but a different prophet, the comforter coming after Jesus who Jesus told everyone about, the spirit of truth, or prophet of truth like,1 John says
1 John 4:1
1Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God. For many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2By this you will know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,…

John 16:13
But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.

How can the Holy spirit not speak of his own power according to Christianity he's actually God himself and not like Jesus, because this isn't Gods force or his simple power, but a messenger from God like Jesus who was a comforter himself and he's saying i will pray to the father to give you another comforter, like me, to teach you the truth of all things and show you the future and give me glory and this is what Muhammad did, he glorifies Jesus and speaks the truth about Jesus not being God and only being Gods messenger and Mary being a heavily women and a virgin and Jesus being kind and loving to his mother and to the people.

The one whom your desire the messenger of the covenant and the spirit of truth from Paran coming with a fiery Law with ten thousand saints, my elite my servant whom i uphold and the people of Kedar Ishmael will sing and rejoice Isaiah chapter 42 Haggai 2 also Habakkuk 3 and Deuteronomy chapter 33 John 16:13 and Isaiah 29-12 and the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying read and he says, i am not learned all of these prophecies and even more in the Bible are talking about Muhammad and this isn't even debatable.

Muhammad was predicted to come in the Gospel of John:
Muhammad in the Gospel of John

Also other people in history actually claimed to be the Comforter or Paraclete in history, that Jesus foretold, so this isn't anything new and if people are making this claim then your interpretation isn't correct and people were actually waiting for another prophet after Jesus.


Historical Dictionary of Prophets in Islam and Judaism


Historical Dictionary of Prophets in Islam and Judaism
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