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Coincidence or Something Else?

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Probability isn't well understood by average Joe. The classic example to demonstrate this is how many people you'd need in a room before there is a better than 50 50 chance two of those people share the same birthday. Assuming you don't know the answer, take a guess.

I've heard it's close to a hundred percent chance two people will share the same birthday if the group is 50 or above. Did I hear right?
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
I've heard it's close to a hundred percent chance two people will share the same birthday if the group is 50 or above. Did I hear right?
Yes. For 50-50 it's 23 people. A guy could make money, methinks. Most folks would think it's more.
 

ValdresRose

Member
It's very common to have memories of important events on the anniversaries on the event. If you're slicing bread in your kitchen when memories of your daughter come to mind the next time you slice bread you'll recall memories of your daughter. It's very common. Please try to remember, the grief of losing a very important person in your life, such as a child, will last your entire lifetime. The way to heal from you grief is to cry it out. Crying is the healing feeling. It was a gift given to us at our birth, our first birthday present.
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
First let me assure you that all here (atheists or theists) are deeply saddened by the loss of your daughter.

Unlike many, I believe in ESP and psychic things. I believe that your daughter not only could have sent you a reminder message, but might visit you in person, in your home. She might want to see her old home and see you again.

I hope that you are not scared by the "things that go bump in the night" because often they need to find closure, themselves. They have emotions and love.

Even psychics are sometimes scared by spirits. But, I remind them, that they, too are the "things that go bump in the night" and the psychics that I have known have been so powerful that they dwarf the power of most spirits.

Before President W. Bush ran for the presidency, many of the most powerful psychics in the world were tasked by God to send a message to the world. The message was to follow God, and not attack Iraq. There was no new information in that message. This is because Revelation already said not to attack Iraq. The pope, knowing this, urged president W. Bush not to attack Iraq, for fear that it will lead to the end of the world (and the pope was right....the world is ending). The pope, in the strongest wording that a pope ever made, made a See to the United States, urging the US not to go to war in Iraq. Revelation said that two demons from the brimstone depths of the bottomless pit of hell would rise to the presidency of the most powerful nation in the world (see Revelation 17.18), and the pope didn't want to see these powerful demons running the world (as they did....and they made war against peaceful nations and they made torture camps.

These psychics sensed what was in President W. Bush's heart, and could feel the extreme evil and power of a very power demon of hell that was W. Bush's soul. The blackness, the evil, the darkness, was frightening, and all of the psychics sent by Gods were scared, almost to the point of refusing to cooperate with God's request to tell the people of the world not to fight in Iraq.

How do we know that the psychics were telling the truth? Because they said absolutely nothing that was new. God knew that people would lose faith and not follow the words of God. God knew that the people needed these psychics of God to tell the people of the world what they already knew. God wanted people not to lose faith. But faith was drowned out by fear. Fear that the al Qaeda might strike again. So, W. Bush, leading by fear (constant phony orange alerts, and bearing false witness against Iraqis, calling them Dr. of Death), W. Bush was able to kill a million innocent Iraqis and make Satanic torture camps. In those torture camps, W. Bush had forced prisoners to look at pictures of naked women.

The Secret History Of The Skull And Bones Society — And The Powerful Men Behind It

When W. Bush was at Yale, he joined the same Satanic cult as his dad (Skull and bones). He had participated in the same Satanic rituals, stirring cauldrons of unspeakable filth (eye of newt, toe of frog), and mumbling Satanic incantations. They used bones of the dead (like the bones of a dead Indian that his father George H. W. Bush stole from a grave) to resurrect Satanic demons of hell.

Psychic Warrior: The True Story of America's Foremost Psychic Spy and the Cover-Up of the CIA's Top-Secret Stargate Program by David Morehouse

  • Both Bush presidents also dabbled in the psychic occult. They tortured psychics in sensory deprivation chambers in order to extract espionage information from their enemies. Even the psychics sent by God were spied on by W. Bush's illegal continuation of the Stargate program of CIA's project MKULTRA (mind control with LSD and other mind altering drugs and ESP). Psychic David Morehouse (link above) was one of the psychics tortured for information by Bush Sr.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I was going to put this little story in Journals, but I reconsidered after thinking it might bring some good discussion or debate.

For those of you who don't already know, I lost a daughter to cancer 13 years ago, which will help you better understand what I'm about to say.

My morning routine upon waking is brushing my teeth, taking care of any calls of nature, showering, and immediately meditating.

During this morning's meditation, a few of my daughter's last words came through to me, specifically the words, "It's so beautiful!" As you could image, this opened a bit of a floodgate. The emotions passed and I returned to my usual meditative state.

Fast forward a few hours, and I happened to glance at today's date on the lower right hand corner of my laptop. 12/11. Today would have been my daughter's 35th birthday. I was entirely ignorant of the date today until that time.

I don't often think of the day my daughter passed, and rarely, if ever, during meditation. Usually memories surround other parts of her life.

So I ask you, denizens of RF, do you think there is something more to this than mere coincidence? Why or why not?
Love and memory and the nonconscious mind within you and from the outside, chance which it takes you to recognize.

It all sounds very human and very valuable.
 

ValdresRose

Member
Love and memory and the nonconscious mind within you and from the outside, chance which it takes you to recognize.

It all sounds very human and very valuable.

Yes!! It is very valuable. We often 'stuff' our emotions, especially grief, and this emotion doesn't go away, it gets stored in our body and either we deal with it or it will deal with us. The OP, SalixIncendium, did the right thing, he cried it out, Crying is the healing feeling! And after he cried it out he had this wonderful feeling and that is called JOY! Don't use "Crocodile tears" to bring up the emotion of joy, it must be genuine from within us, call it from our Heart. This was an excellent Thread - Post and we can all learn an important lesson from this, we must deal with out grief in a healthy way.
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
I had kind of the same thing happen with me and an ex-girlfriend who I fell out of touch with more than 30 years ago.

One day a couple of years ago I was playing on the computer and just out of the blue I thought to myself, "hey, I should see if so-and-so has a Facebook page".

Found it right away (she has an unusual name), snooped for a bit, and left the page.

I realized, I don't know, maybe an hour later that it was her birthday.
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
I was going to put this little story in Journals, but I reconsidered after thinking it might bring some good discussion or debate.

For those of you who don't already know, I lost a daughter to cancer 13 years ago, which will help you better understand what I'm about to say.

My morning routine upon waking is brushing my teeth, taking care of any calls of nature, showering, and immediately meditating.

During this morning's meditation, a few of my daughter's last words came through to me, specifically the words, "It's so beautiful!" As you could image, this opened a bit of a floodgate. The emotions passed and I returned to my usual meditative state.

Fast forward a few hours, and I happened to glance at today's date on the lower right hand corner of my laptop. 12/11. Today would have been my daughter's 35th birthday. I was entirely ignorant of the date today until that time.

I don't often think of the day my daughter passed, and rarely, if ever, during meditation. Usually memories surround other parts of her life.

So I ask you, denizens of RF, do you think there is something more to this than mere coincidence? Why or why not?



Parents teach children so many things in life. What many do not realize is that children also teach parents so many things in life. Your daughter has taught you so many things you might not even realize. This is just a reminder not to forget them. You could not be who you are today without the view, the knowledge, and the experience of that wonderful daughter. This is a reminder that though she is no longer around, she is never ever really gone. Cherish that. Pull out all the old pictures. Remember all the wonderful times. Perhaps there is still more that she can teach you.

That's what I see. It's very clear!!
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Yes!! It is very valuable. We often 'stuff' our emotions, especially grief, and this emotion doesn't go away, it gets stored in our body and either we deal with it or it will deal with us. The OP, SalixIncendium, did the right thing, he cried it out, Crying is the healing feeling! And after he cried it out he had this wonderful feeling and that is called JOY!
I respect your view, but joy was never an aim or a consequence of grief for me. In my experience, we bond with our parents, more strongly with our partner, most strongly with our offspring. Life and literature have commented many times on the deep sense of wrongness when a child dies before the parent, the life that might have been lived and was not.
 
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