MJFlores
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I did not even have to explain those verses
yet your reactions were adverse
don't you believe in God's words?
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COL 2:16 And The Sabbath - Are You Being Told The Truth?
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I did not even have to explain those verses
yet your reactions were adverse
don't you believe in God's words?
3rdAngel
Well-Known Member
Well there is your problem. You do not know what sabbaths are being referred to and your not able to explain it. All you did was pull scripture out of context and assume it is talking about God's 4th commandment when the scripture in the old testament have many different sabbaths that are not God's 4th commandment..
Maybe you can prove from the scriptures which sabbaths they are talking about?
Are they talking about...
1. God's 4th commandment *Exodus 20:8-11?
2. Ceremonial sabbaths in ordinances and feast days (not the 4th commandment)
3. The sabbaths (not the 4th commandment) in the Feast of trumpets *Leviticus 23:24?
4. The sabbaths (not the 4th commandment) in the Day of Atonement *Leviticus 23:27-32?
5. The sabbaths (not the 4th commandment) in the Feast of booths *Leviticus 23:29?
6. The sabbath (not the 4th commandment) of the land *Leviticus 25:4-22
Your only cherry picking scripture to your own destruction if you do not know what the scriptures are referring to especially if you think that all scripture that has the word sabbath in it is referring to Gods' 4th commandment when there are also sabbaths in ceremonial ordinances. This is what the scriptures in the OP show but you will not go near it.
You do err not knowing the scriptures or the power of God and when God calls to give you a blessing you turn your back and run away from his Word.
Only God's Word is true and we should believe and follow it over man made teachings and traditions that break the commandments of God *Matthew 15:3-9
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MJFlores
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Isaiah 1:13 New International Version (NIV)
Stop bringing meaningless offerings!
Your incense is detestable to me.
New Moons, Sabbaths and convocations—
I cannot bear your worthless assemblies.
Who is speaking? Isn't that God who spoke through the prophet Isaiah?
The Sabbaths, as God said are meaningless offerings and worthless assemblies.
It said Sabbaths on your Bible and mine - so what is there to define further?
Hosea 2:11 New International Version (NIV)
I will stop all her celebrations:
her yearly festivals, her New Moons,
her Sabbath days—all her appointed festivals.
Who spoke through the prophet Hosea? It was God.
What was the message?
He is going to stop ALL her celebrations...her Sabbath days....all her appointed festivals.
When God said A L L celebrations, he was specific also about the Sabbath days.
Now comparing the books of the Bible you use - Exodus and Leviticus
These are during Moses time
I was referring to a much later time - the time of Hosea and Isaiah
On this later time God already STOP THE SABBATH being offered to HIM
Because according to the Lord God it has become detestable.
Because it was not being followed
That is why I was asking FOR YOUR SABBATH SCHEDULE from Friday to Saturday
what do you really do?
3rdAngel
Well-Known Member
As posted earlier... Prove your claims. What sabbaths are the scriptures that you provided talking about? If you cannot why pretend you know what your talking about? All your doing here is repeating yourself by cherry picking scripture you cannot prove is talking about God's 4th commandment.
You do not know what sabbaths are being referred to and your not able to explain it. All you did was pull scripture out of context and assume it is talking about God's 4th commandment when the scripture in the old testament have many different sabbaths that are not God's 4th commandment..
Please prove from the scriptures which sabbaths both Hosea 2:11 and Isaiah 1:13 is talking about? If you need some help please go to the OP scriptures where they are linked to Colossians 2:16-17 where the answer is given from God's Word in post # 6; posts # 7; posts # 8; posts # 9 and posts # 10 linked from the OP that prove that Colossians 2:11-17, Hosea 2:11and Isaiah 1:13 are talking about the laws in "ordinances" and special annual sabbaths in feast days" not Gods 4th commandment.
Please brother show us from the scriptures which sabbath Hosea 2:11and Isaiah 1:13 are talking about?
1. God's 4th commandment *Exodus 20:8-11? or....
2. Ceremonial sabbaths in ordinances and feast days (not the 4th commandment)
3. The sabbaths (not the 4th commandment) in the Feast of trumpets *Leviticus 23:24?
4. The sabbaths (not the 4th commandment) in the Day of Atonement *Leviticus 23:27-32?
5. The sabbaths (not the 4th commandment) in the Feast of booths *Leviticus 23:29?
6. The sabbath (not the 4th commandment) of the land *Leviticus 25:4-22
If you cannot why not read the OP and receive God's Word and be blessed? You do err not knowing the scriptures or the power of God and when God calls to give you a blessing you turn your back and run away from his Word.
Seems if your intepretation of the scriptures were true, someone forgot to tell JESUS and all the
Apostles to stop keeping the Sabbath after the death burial and resurrection of JESUS. Also why did JESUS not mention God's 4th commandment was abolished when he was alive? Yet we see JESUS when he was talking to his disciples prophecying into the future after his death, burial and ressurrection...
Matthew 24:20 [20], BUT PRAY THAT YOUR FLIGHT BE NOT IN THE WINTER NEITHER ON THE SABBATH
Hebrews 4:9 THEREFORE IT REMAINS FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD TO KEEP THE SABBATH
Woops seems someone also forgot to tell Paul and Jesus and God's people are to continue keeping God's 4th commandment sabbath.
Maybe we need to stop sometime in the future.....?
ISAIAH 66:22-23 [22], FOR AS THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE NEW EARTH WHICH I SHALL MAKE SHALL REMAIN BEFORE ME said the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. [23]And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and FROM ONE SABBATH TO ANOTHER, shall all flesh come to worship before me, said the LORD.
Woops nope, seems someone forgot to tell everyone your interpretation brother. Houston we do indeed have a problem. MJFlores does not know what sabbath he is referring to.
The only thing you posted that is true from your last post was that you have a problem. I agree with you. You do indeed have a problem. You do not know what sabbaths your scriptures are referring to.
Receive God's Word and be blessed ignoring it does not make it dissappear......
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MJFlores
Well-Known Member
When you say sabbath and I hear sabbath from you its....
Matthew 24:19-21 Good News Translation (GNT)
How terrible it will be in those days for women who are pregnant and for mothers with little babies! Pray to God that you will not have to run away during the winter or on a Sabbath! For the trouble at that time will be far more terrible than any there has ever been, from the beginning of the world to this very day. Nor will there ever be anything like it again.
The Lord Jesus was prophesying about Siege of Jerusalem (70 CE) - Wikipedia
And just gave reference that they should pray that this would not happen during the winter or on a Sabbath
Running during winter is bad enough and running in a Jewish Sabbath is equally dangerous because the Jews are required to be indoors. Jesus in no way describe or order to observe the Sabbath at this point.
Hebrews 4:9 Good News Translation (GNT)
As it is, however, there still remains for God's people a rest like God's resting on the seventh day.
versus your quote: THEREFORE IT REMAINS FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD TO KEEP THE SABBATH
Again the real verse and message does not in anyway promote the observance of the Sabbath
In another version of the Bible - the Amplified Bibles mention the verse this way:
AMP
So there remains a [full and complete] Sabbath rest for the people of God.
AMPC
So then, there is still awaiting a full and complete Sabbath-rest reserved for the [true] people of God;
What does FROM ONE SABBATH TO ANOTHER mean?
The Israelite slaves observed the Sabbath - that is one
The other Sabbath was mentioned by you in Hebrews 4:9 - and that is the other.
I still yet to see your Sabbath schedule
SABBATH ACTIVITIES
FRIDAY
6:00 pm
7:00 pm
8:00 pm
9:00 pm
10:00 pm
11:00 pm
SATURDAY
12:00 am
1:00 am
2:00 am
3:00 am
4:00 am
5:00 am
6:00 am
7:00 am
8:00 am
9:00 am
10:00 am
11:00 am
12:00 am
1:00 pm
2:00 pm
3:00 pm
4:00 pm
5:00 pm
6:00 pm
Is it confidential that even @Crosstian couldn't even divulge how your Sabbaths are observed?
Or the fact is your Sabbaths are nothing that special at all?
The Anointed
Well-Known Member
I see that you are still wallowing around in your ignorance to God's word.
Colossians 2:16; "Let no one make rules about what you eat or drink or about holy days or about the new moon festival or the Sabbath. (Singular---Sabbath) For all such things are but a shadow of things in the future, etc.
The Holy days here referred to by Paul were Sabbatical days on which no work could be done, but those Holy Days are not the Sabbath DAY (Singular) to which Paul referred to, although the Jews did call those sabbatical Holy days, on which no work could be done, Sabbaths. They even have a Sabbatical Year=A sabbath Year in which they were not allowed to replant their fields, but all those were NOT THE WEEKLY SABBATH of which the future reality is the Lord's day, the day of the Lord in which he will judge the whole world with Justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that MAN from death.
And the MOST HIGH Sabbath that occurred on the day after the death of Jesus, was the 15th day of Nisan, the day of Preparation to their seven day festival of unleavened bread, which they erroneously called their Passover, which HOLY DAY, began as the sunset on Wednesday, three nights and three days before the resurrection of Jesus.
Sleep well young fellow, if God needs you for anything, perhaps he might reveal to you in your visons of the night, the truth of the future reality of which the weekly Sabbath was but a shadow.
Nighty night young fellow.
3rdAngel
Well-Known Member
Not at all. I am not the one ignoring Gods Word and the questions shared with you that show why your in error. Only God's Word is true brother and we should believe and follow it. Ignoring God's Word does not make it disappear.
Rubbish! Some english translations have it as either "or sabbaths" or as "sabbath days" the GREEK word used here as sabbaton uses the application number as N-GNP denoting pural application to sabbaths as opposed to "the sabbath" using Genitive neuter singular; (N-GNS) which is not used in Colossians 2:16 for the application of sabbaton.
Which ever which ever translation you want to use it is not talking about "Singular Sabbath application" as shown in the Greek, but plural application to sabbaths or more than one sabbath all connected to holy days translated as feastivals or feast days, new moons and meat and drink all of which are shodows to come v17. So v16 does not read of "the sabbath singular" but of the sabbath (Noun - Genitive Neuter Plural; N-GNP). The Greek word application and use of Colossians 2:16 of sabbaton here is to plural sabbaths or sabbath days linked to holy days or feastivals or feast days but in this case plural days (more than one sabbath).
This is seen is Leviticus 23 where there were "annual special sabbaths" linked to the "feast of trumpets", "day of atonement" and the feast of booths" These were not the weekly sabbath of God's 4th commandments but annual sabbaths (plural) that could fall on any day of the week depending on the yearly cycle of the annual feast days.
As shown above you are confused. Get your facts right. Sabbaton applicaiton in Colossians 2:16 us not singlular *N-GNS the number used here is N-GNP plural application. That is why the Greek and the majority of translations translate
Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries w/TVM, Strong - G4521 σάββατον; sabbaton Of Hebrew origin [H7676]; the Sabbath (that is, Shabbath), or day of weekly repose from secular avocations (also the observance or institution itself); by extension a se'nnight, that is, the interval between two Sabbaths; likewise the plural in all the above applications: - sabbath (day), week.
Your confused, a High Sabbath which is not God's 4th commandment can fall on any day of the week depending on the yearly cycle. This is also shown in the OP and only supports the OP that shows Colossians 2 is talking about laws in ordinances and shadow sabbaths. Not God's 4th commandment which is one of Gods 10 commandments that give us the knowledge of what sin is when broken *Romans 3:20. If the Sabbath was made for mankind before sin and before shadow laws than it is impossible for it to be a shadow law. Something that you close your eyes to in order to follow your tradition that is not biblical. Please get your facts right before posting.
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3rdAngel
Well-Known Member
Let me know when you want to discuss the scriptures and the questions asked of you. Ignoring God's Word does not make it disappear.
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MJFlores
Well-Known Member
3rdAngel
Well-Known Member
Well I am yes and that is why I started the OP here that you do not wish to discuss. Let me know when you wish to address the scriptures in the posts provided to you and the questions asked of you that show why your in error. Ignoring God's Word does not make it disappear.
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3rdAngel
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Well nope that does not answer the question asked of you...
You do not know the answer do you. Please read the OP.
Your missing the point aren't you? Your claim was that God's 4th commandment is abolished 700 years BC yet JESUS sees his disciples in the future still keeping the Sabbath 70 AD after his death and ressurrection. You think if your interpretation was true someone would have told JESUS and JESUS would have told the disciples right?
Rubbish! What do you mean the real verse? You were provided the real verse...
Hebrews 4:9, SO THEN IT REMAINS FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD TO KEEP THE SABBATH. (Aramaic)
Hebrews 4, verse 9: “There remains therefore a SABBATH rest to the people of God.” In verses 1, 3, 4 and 8, the Greek word for “rest” is katapausin. It means “rest.” But in verse 9, the Greek word for “rest” is sabbatismos, which is a Hebrew word—Sabbat, which means “the Sabbath”—combined with a Greek suffix—ismos, which means “a keeping of” or “a doing of.” Put together, sabbatismo means “a keeping of the Sabbath.” When correctly translated, Hebrews 4:9 should read, “There remains therefore a keeping of the Sabbath to the people of God.”
GREEK INTERLINEAR HEBREWS 4:9 άρα (Then) απολείπεται (there is left) σαββατισμός (a Sabbath rest) τω (to the) λαώ (people) του θεού (of God)
STRONGS LEXICON So ἄρα (ara) Conjunction Strong's Greek 686: Then, therefore, since. Probably from airo; a particle denoting an inference more or less decisive. there remains ἀπολείπεται (apoleipetai) Verb - Present Indicative Middle or Passive - 3rd Person Singular Strong's Greek 620: From apo and leipo; to leave behind; by implication, to forsake. a Sabbath rest σαββατισμὸς (sabbatismos) Noun - Nominative Masculine Singular Strong's Greek 4520: A keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest. From a derivative of sabbaton; a 'sabbatism', i.e. the repose of Christianity. for the τῷ (tō) Article - Dative Masculine Singular Strong's Greek 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the. people λαῷ (laō) Noun - Dative Masculine Singular Strong's Greek 2992: Apparently a primary word; a people. of God. Θεοῦ (Theou) Noun - Genitive Masculine Singular Strong's Greek 2316: A deity, especially the supreme Divinity; figuratively, a magistrate; by Hebraism, very.
STRONGS CONCORDENCE sabbatismos: a sabbath rest Definition: a sabbath rest Usage (DOING): a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.
ENGLISHMAN'S CONCORDANCE Hebrews 4:9 N-NMS GRK: ἄρα ἀπολείπεται σαββατισμὸς τῷ λαῷ NAS: there remains a Sabbath rest for the people KJV: therefore a rest to the people INT: Then remains a sabbath rest to the people
CORRECT TRANSLATION
HEBREWS 4:9 [9], SO THEN IT REMAINS FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD TO KEEP THE SABBATH. Aramaic
PARALLEL TRANSLATIONS
New International Version
There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God;
English Standard Version
So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God,
Berean Study Bible
There remains, then, a Sabbath rest for the people of God.
Berean Literal Bible
So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God.
New American Standard Bible
So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God.
Christian Standard Bible
Therefore, a Sabbath rest remains for God's people.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
Therefore, a Sabbath rest remains for God's people.
International Standard Version
There remains, therefore, a Sabbath rest for the people of God to keep,
NET Bible
Consequently a Sabbath rest remains for the people of God.
New Heart English Bible
There remains therefore a Sabbath rest for the people of God.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
SO THEN IT REMAINS FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD TO KEEP THE SABBATH
New American Standard 1977
There remains therefore a Sabbath rest for the people of God.
American Standard Version
There remaineth therefore a sabbath rest for the people of God.
English Revised Version
There remaineth therefore a sabbath rest for the people of God.
Weymouth New Testament
It follows that there still remains a sabbath rest for the people of God.
World English Bible
There remains therefore a Sabbath rest for the people of God.
Young's Literal Translation
there doth remain, then, a sabbatic rest to the people of God,
Sorry God's Word disagrees with you.
Every Sabbath God's people will meet together in the new heavens and earth.
ISAIAH 66:22-23 [22], FOR AS THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE NEW EARTH WHICH I SHALL MAKE SHALL REMAIN BEFORE ME said the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. [23]And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and FROM ONE SABBATH TO ANOTHER, shall all flesh come to worship before me, said the LORD.
What? There was no ISRALITE no JEW and no sin when God made the Sabbath for all mankind *Mark 2:27; Genesis 2:1-3
Sorry I have no idea what your talking about.
See post # 387
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metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
What some seem to very conveniently forget is this:
Matthew 22:36-40:
36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Notice that there is nothing there about observing Shabbat, and also notice that it says "All the law...".
Matthew 22:36-40:
36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Notice that there is nothing there about observing Shabbat, and also notice that it says "All the law...".
3rdAngel
Well-Known Member
Funny how people choose to ignore v40 as if it did not exist. The Sabbath commandment is a part of the law and JESUS says on the two great commandments of Love to God and Man hang all the LAW and the prophets. This includes God's 4th commandment. Thankyou for sharing this.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
You clearly do not understand this as the above doesn't make one iota of sense. What Jesus is rather clearly saying is that what we call the "law of love", which is the basis of the verses I quoted, is the entire law in and of itself. The other verses I provided you a couple of days ago that deals with Jewish Law that includes the Shabbat laws coming to an end, thus replaced by the "law of love". This is why we don't keep kosher or abide by the 613 Laws in Torah.
Jesus went on to say that the basis of the law for us is to "love one another as I have loved you", which is why the other laws, such as keeping kosher and being circumcised, were gradually abandoned. This is pretty basic to even an elementary understanding of where the Gospel was and is coming from and why.
IOW, Jewish Law, which includes the Sabbath Laws, was and is for Jews-- not Gentiles.
3rdAngel
Well-Known Member
Makes perfect sense if you read what JESUS says. Jesus is quoting from Old testament scriptures of Deuteronomy 6:5 and Leviticus 19:18. You having some Jewish background brother should know this should you not?
MATTHEW 22:36-40 [36], Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
[37], Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.[38], This is the first and great commandment. [39], And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. [40], ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS.
Let's get clearer...
MATTHEW 19:16-21
[16], And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? [17], And he said unto him, Why call thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: BUT IF YOU WILL ENTER INTO LIFE KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS. [18], He saith unto him, WHICH? JESUS SAID, THOU SHALT NOT MURDER, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, THOU SHALT NOT STEAL, THOU SHALT NOT LIE, HONOR YOU MOTHER AND FATHER AND THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF [20], The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? [21], Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
Jesus showed him that he may have fulfilled His duty of love to his neighbor but not to God breaking commandment 1 and 2 loving riches more than God
Well Jesus makes it very clear that what he is talking about it is the 10 commandments of God's Law.
What about James...
JAMES 2:8-12
[8], If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF, ye do well:
[9], But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
[10], FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL KEEP THE WHOLE LAW AND YET OFFEND IN ONE POINT, HE SHALL BE GUILTY OF ALL.
[11], FOR HE THAT SAID, DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY SAID ALSO DO NOT KILL. NOW IF YOU DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY AND YOU KILL, YOU HAVE BECOME A TRANSGRESSOR OF GOD'S LAW.
[12], So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
Well James makes it very clear what he is talking about when he talks about the Royal Law of love. He is talking about the 10 commandments. So Jesus and James both agree that they are talking about God's 10 commandments which also include the 4th commandment which is one of the ten.
What about Paul?
ROMANS 13:8-10
[8], Owe no man anything, but to LOVE ONE ANOTHER: for HE THAT LOVES ANOTHER HAS FULFILLED THE LAW.
[9], For this, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, THOU SHALT NOT KILL, THOU SHALT NOT STEAL, THOU SHALT NOT LIE, THOU SHALT NOT COVET; and IF THERE SHALL BE ANY OTHER COMMANDMENT, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF.
[10], Love works no ill to his neighbor: therefore LOVE IS THE FULFILLING OF THE LAW.
Paul makes it very clear what he is talking about as well when he is talking about God's Law. It seems like Jesus, James and Paul all agree together what it is they are referring to when talking about God's Law. They are all referring to God's 10 commandments which includes the 4th commandment which is one of the ten (Exodus 20:1-17)
So now that God's Word shows us what it is referring to. No need to guess, what we are talking about, God’s Law of Love is God's 10 commandments. God's love is expressed through obedience to Gods law through a new heart to love, not outside it it. That is why JESUS says "IF you love me keep my commandments.
On there two commandments of love to God and man hang all the law and the prophets.
You are in error. There was no Jew; no Israel, no Moses and no Sin when the sabbath was made for mankind *Mark 2:27; Genesis 2:1-3
3rdAngel
Well-Known Member
Does anyone want to discuss the OP now?
Where is the scripture that says God's 4th commandment has now been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day? - There is none and if there is no scripture than the question we must consider is who are we following; God or man? JESUS says all those who knowingly follow man made teachings and traditions that break the commandments of God after they have been given a knowledge of the truth are not following God and it is vain to think you are worshipping God *Matthew 15:3-9; Matthew 7:22-26; Acts 17:30-31.
May God bless you as you seek him through his Word.
Where is the scripture that says God's 4th commandment has now been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day? - There is none and if there is no scripture than the question we must consider is who are we following; God or man? JESUS says all those who knowingly follow man made teachings and traditions that break the commandments of God after they have been given a knowledge of the truth are not following God and it is vain to think you are worshipping God *Matthew 15:3-9; Matthew 7:22-26; Acts 17:30-31.
May God bless you as you seek him through his Word.
The Anointed
Well-Known Member
3rdAngel......Your confused, a High Sabbath which is not God's 4th commandment can fall on any day of the week depending on the yearly cycle. This is also shown in the OP and only supports the OP that shows Colossians 2 is talking about laws in ordinances and shadow sabbaths. Not God's 4th commandment which is one of Gods 10 commandments that give us the knowledge of what sin is when broken *Romans 3:20. If the Sabbath was made for mankind before sin and before shadow laws than it is impossible for it to be a shadow law. Something that you close your eyes to in order to follow your tradition that is not biblical. Please get your facts right before posting.
There is no such thing as shadow laws, only laws that are a faint outline or a shadow to that which is in our future.
And it is you who should get your facts right before posting, I have told you that the High Sabbath that followed the death of Jesus on Wednesday, was Thursday, the first day of the Jewish seven day festival of Unleavened Bread, which the Jews erroneously called their Passover, and that High Sabbath was a holy day on which no work could be done.
Jesus was in the tomb Thursday night and Thursday, Friday night and all day Friday, and Saturday night and all Saturday, and was risen to life as the darkness of Sunday night descended, and the tomb was found to be empty next morning WHILE IT WAS STILL DARK. See John 20: 1.
It is you who are confused little one. Now you go and rest that over taxed little confused brain of yours.
Have a good day my friend.
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MJFlores
Well-Known Member
Hebrews 4:9, SO THEN IT REMAINS FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD TO KEEP THE SABBATH. (Aramaic)
Is an invalid translation, an abomination a fake news.
Hebrews 4:8-10 New Life Version (NLV)
If Joshua had led those people into God’s rest, He would not have told of another day after that. And so God’s people have a complete rest waiting for them. The man who goes into God’s rest, rests from his own work the same as God rested from His work.
#387 was not in the desired format.
MJFlores said: ↑
I still yet to see your Sabbath schedule
SABBATH ACTIVITIES
FRIDAY
6:00 pm
7:00 pm
8:00 pm
9:00 pm
10:00 pm
11:00 pm
SATURDAY
12:00 am
1:00 am
2:00 am
3:00 am
4:00 am
5:00 am
6:00 am
7:00 am
8:00 am
9:00 am
10:00 am
11:00 am
12:00 am
1:00 pm
2:00 pm
3:00 pm
4:00 pm
5:00 pm
6:00 pm
Is it confidential that even @Crosstian couldn't even divulge how your Sabbaths are observed? Or the fact is your Sabbaths are nothing that special at all?
MJFlores
Well-Known Member
3rdAngel
Well-Known Member
Well that is not true. Sure there is. I suggest you read God's Word for yourself brother. The old is fulfilled in the new. Read Colossians 2; Ephesians 2; Hebrews 7; Hebrews 8; Hebrews 9; Hebrews 10
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Hebrews 10:1 [1], For the law having a SHADOW OF GOOD THINGS TO COME, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
Hebrews 8:5 Who serve to the example and SHADOW OF HEAVENLY THINGS, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, said he, that you make all things according to the pattern showed to you in the mount.
Colossians 2:17 [17], Which are a SHADOW OF THINGS TO COME; but the body is of Christ.
Your confused. When I said you should get your facts straight it was in regards to your claims that Colossians 2:16 for sabbath was singular application [N-GNS]. As shown to you in the previous post the GREEK word number is N-GNP which is plural application to sabbaths or sabbath days connected to scripture context of feast days. Please don't deflect this fact by trying to talk about something I was not talking about (see post # 407).
Hope this helps.