Combatting the culture of ignorance

[SpeaksForTheTrees]

Actually, the Wright Bros had a very sophisticated experimental & development program.
And they did design their own engine. Others at the time had too low a power to weight ratio.
Their achievement was an impressive one (to this former aerospace engineer & aircraft engine collector).

Compare to a b52 north drop was a contraption ? Could of been simpler and didnt look very safe the pioneers where madmen in contraptions , flight has evolved and every mistake possible had been covered ? Wrights provided solutions to problems that wasn't in a book ?

 

[Revoltingest]

Compare to a b52 north drop was a contraption ? Could of been simpler and didnt look very safe the pioneers where madmen in contraptions , flight has evolved and every mistake possible had been covered ? Wrights provided solutions to problems that wasn't in a book ?

I don't understand this.

 

[SpeaksForTheTrees]

I don't understand this.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

And you don't see the brains behind that?

 

[SpeaksForTheTrees]

And you don't see the brains behind that?

Would you get on it ?
No one intelligent would get on there for a first ?
Sure is brain power but not the type they learn in school

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Would you get on it ?
No one intelligent would get on there for a first ?
Sure is brain power but not the type they learn in school

I think it was Niel DeGrasse Tyson who said something to the extent of those who left the caves first are the ones who got all of us out of the caves.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Carol Dweck's work is widely accepted in education circles, this isn't some woo-woo theory.

It's not woo-woo, I agree. There are, though, a variety of credible theories on motivation and world view and it's impact on education and learning, and emphasis on fixed mindsets would be emphasized more in hers than others.

 

[Estro Felino]

I understand what the author of the article means. It can be the result of the excessive American pragmatism, which has been producing a partial (or total) suppression of notionism in the American school system.
But excessive notionism is bad too. In my country, universities are all based upon a system in which any thing is about theory and notions, whereas practice is totally absent. This creates a disastrous fracture between the academic world and the labor world. In my law school, I had to memorize thoroughly entire books, and some very long paragraphs (laws) even by heart. This caused me lots of distress and made me hate university. The day of my graduation was definitely a liberation day. So, yes, excessive notionism, like excessive pragmatism, is wrong. This implies that it is necessary to create something in between, a middle way...

 

[SpeaksForTheTrees]

I think it was Niel DeGrasse Tyson who said something to the extent of those who left the caves first are the ones who got all of us out of the caves.

Those that left the caves first where never seen again and became lunch our common lolcestor was on two legs and all of four feet tall , is a miricle we made it

 

[SpeaksForTheTrees]

Is only really 3 functioning generation on earth , might be 4
Remove the other 2 generations and who will show the young . Children in its massively explanatory terms become ignorant on what ever level .
Is down to patents , trying to remove ignorance of etiquettes , is that a bad word?
I guess praising children does come down to the etiquettes of how you actually present the praise for hard work after all we don't want to make our children narcissist before they even get to secondry , if that makes sense.

 

[Deidre]

Think our culture caters to social media a lot for its 'information.' Social media is often just a catch all of opinions, and not much is based on facts. People are more interested in begging for likes and so on when it comes to social media, as opposed to actual intellectual thought and debate. How I've come to see some of this.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Those that left the caves first where never seen again and became lunch our common lolcestor was on two legs and all of four feet tall , is a miricle we made it

Had it not been for the bravery of explorers, we wouldn't have done this:

 

[Milton Platt]

I don't know whether things are getting worse.
(One example cited was reading fewer books of fiction. Big deal.)
I recall Stephen Hawking relating how his crowd consider working hard at studies to be frowned upon. It was considered "common". He spent only an hour a day on course work.
Tom Wolf addressed long standing & widespread anti-intellectuallism in his book, I Am Charlotte Simmons.
Other examples abound.
Tis worth combating it, but it's not so new.

Even more disconcerting is "willful ignorance", which seems rampant on the internet.

 

[Revoltingest]

Even more disconcerting is "willful ignorance", which seems rampant on the internet.

Let's just hope it's not getting worse.
The internet might actually improve things for a couple reasons.....
1) Ease of access allows people to argue issues more readily than in real life.
Those who learn from debate, will become more cautious about claims, & more inquisitive.
2) It's much easier to find information.
Of course, there's much bad info too.
But those inclined to learning & objectivity will find it edifying.