Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Yes, he did. When Comey said Trump wasn't under investigation, to Comey's best knowledge that was/is true.
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Comey's Testimony
- Thread starter Falvlun
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Personally, I see having discussions as part of being aware. Heck, we talk about the new movie coming out or the draft outcome of our favorite sports teams. I don't understand the derision about discussing the latest developments in our nation's government.
One aspect: Comey's testimony was under oath. Trump's, so far, is not.
It's special that you feel that way.
Jeremiahcp
Well-Known Jerk
I am getting back to my reading and enjoying summer. People here are already fairly dug in and I don't see minds changing too much; at this point it is just a bunch of back and forth bickering.
My thought would be that we rarely have discussions at all. Most of the time, they degrade to school-yard hissy fits about who is right/wrong. In regards to politics, it is so polarized right now that the best we can hope for is an "agree to disagree" outcome. As for me, I will save my sanity until a conclusion is given.
Summer has been great for me so far. A far better way to spend time is to be out and about doing stuff.
Jeremiahcp
Well-Known Jerk
Making room for some independent thought is probably a good idea as well.
Independent thought?! Who do you think you are? Get outta 'ere!
Callisto
Hellenismos, BTW
The takeaway is not that Trump's not currently under investigation. Comey was testifying as to what was the status then, when their meetings occurred, not what may or may not be the case now. Whether Trump is under investigation now is a whole other thing and something he can't speak to (at least, not publicly) since he's no longer FBI Director. Trumplethinskin and his minions are spinning something that hasn't been established. The only thing Comey's statements mean is that information on Trump's Russian escort escapades etc. were discovered by looking into others, not investigating him directly at the time.
I will not. And I don't believe it's possible for a pro-Usa patriot to do so either.
Trump has a history of lying and dissembling and following his own interests, even when they conflict with the countries. It doesn't matter whether you support his vision and policies, this is a fact. He did promise to release his tax returns before the election, but decided not to do so. He picked people for top offices in his campaign and administration that had irregular connections with a hostile global power. So irregular that those people lied about them.
Maybe that doesn't matter. But Trump has made it clear that he doesn't want all this investigated. So it is incumbent upon patriots to make sure that it is investigated, thoroughly. Otherwise, we won't know whether our President is engaged in treason (selling out our security interests) or not.
If Trump isn't, great. But if he is, he is far more dangerous to us than ISIS or illegal workers.
So, no! Taking a "wait and see" attitude is utterly anti-USA. If Trump is allowed to just keep everybody's attention focused on things like"Obama illegally wiretapping Trump Towers" and "I am treated more unfairly than any other President", by the time we find out that he's sold us out like so many Trump University students it will be too late to do anything about it.
Tom
I realize that this post might be really annoying in case you can see it, but there was definitely something wrong with the way that interviewer dressed. Believe me, I am NOT into fashion, but what is wrong with some people?
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Trump is the President. He has advisors who are tasked with enlightening him to political norms and the importance of keeping things appropriate. Any kind of ignorance as to what is appropriate is 100% on Trump. First, he has to admit that he needs help and is out of his element. Then, his advisors should educate him.
Usually when people bring up deals involing lots of money like this the intent is to cast shade on the person recieving the money. Like when people said that the women accusing Trump of sexual harrassment were sueing him for money. The impication is that money corrupts, and if anyone is recieving large sums of money they can't have a be telling the truth.
Now, if you tell me that this was not your intention, that you didn't bring this up inorder to imply something about Comey's motives, then all I can say is I don't believe you.
I'm a big fan of making money.
No one should assume what is "usually" the case when it's possibly offensive.
Not an accusation I'd make without evidence.
What'll you accuse me of next....suffocating puppies?
Someone else brought up the possibility of corruption.
It didn't occur to me that Comey was corrupted by money.
You're finally on the right track.
Tis always best to ask instead of presuming the worst.
I think you're a prejudiced idiot with halitosis.
And trying to avoid admitting an error of judgement.
But hey, no one's perfect.
(I'm bad at communicating my intent.)
As long as we understand each other.
And I still don't believe you.
What was the relevant point?
Honestly, I assumed the same thing. That you were implying that Comey is as corrupt as anybody.
What was your reason?
Tom
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I don't think it's possible for anyone concerned about the state of humanity and modern society.
Bless your heart.
Smell my fart.