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blü 2

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Premium Member
The Christian Martyr Kent Hovind has
explained this position in his original series of lectures on YouTube.
Poor old Kent is many things but a martyr, no. He is however a tax cheat, a liar under oath, and a criminal ─ all those things have been found by courts ─ and I assume you've read his "doctoral thesis" and wondered whether to laugh or cry.
CREATION-DOGMA:
Creationists and the God of the Bible believe that all of your grandmothers
are ordinary people. All your relatives compose the Human-kind with its own
Last Universal Common Ancestor (LUCA), the Biblical Adam and Eve.
Adam and Eve are characters in a story, both created by magic (the alteration of reality independently of the rules of reality). There are, as you know, no authenticated examples of magic in reality.

Or do you think Adam and Eve were educated at Hogwarts?
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
I think that crop circles might be subatomic particle burns from the Van Allen Belt hitting the surface of the earth. I believe that the patterns are caused by a lensing effect of the atmosphere, which, in my opinion, could cause the bizarre patterns in crop circles.
Father said his science brother used Phi as a calculus first then changed earth stone metals burning their spatial history cooling.

Earth gases burn out as radiation attack of stones gases as gas feeds back image earth orbital X mass being destroyed in converting science of earths owned gases.

Reason changes mass atmosphere of mass variations gases into pressure changes.

Gases are variable in atmosphere as variable masses burn as variable gases caused the changed patterns. Phi activated also just one calculation number.

Radiation is just one force. Natural owns multi mass itself.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Father said his science brother used Phi as a calculus first then changed earth stone metals burning their spatial history cooling.

Earth gases burn out as radiation attack of stones gases as gas feeds back image earth orbital X mass being destroyed in converting science of earths owned gases.

Reason changes mass atmosphere of mass variations gases into pressure changes.

Gases are variable in atmosphere as variable masses burn as variable gases caused the changed patterns. Phi activated also just one calculation number.

Radiation is just one force. Natural owns multi mass itself.
Asteroid gases around earth less in radiation burn too.

Particles already in space then mass fuse melting. How objects fall from the sky.

Machine mineral earth melt uses water artificially to gain machine.

Heavens gives back same answer via water loss.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
The answer is a human is a whole self only.

Natural does not use machines to say correct observation of a human. Natural equal observation is seen first.

A human is not present as a y chromosome only the y chromosome is stated.

A y Chromosone is not a whole human.

This type of human thought is how and why life got destroyed by misrepresenting the human whole one form actually.

The argument. Science lied.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
DO YOU LIKE THE SONG-VIDEO I HAVE POSTED?

IT IS IRRELEVANT

Just look at that, i can write in big letters too..

How about this video, it's more relevant

Can you believe it, a fish with legs, that walks. Almost lile they evolved eh?

 
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TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
The Christian Martyr Kent Hovind has
explained this position in his original series of lectures on YouTube.

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

SIMPLE FACT:
Your mother gave birth to you.
Your grandmother gave birth to your mother.
Your great-grandmother gave birth to your grandmother,
Your great-great-grandmother gave birth to your great-grandmother...

CREATION-DOGMA:
Creationists and the God of the Bible believe that all of your grandmothers
are ordinary people. All your relatives compose the Human-kind with its own
Last Universal Common Ancestor (LUCA), the Biblical Adam and Eve.

Didn't you start this post by saying it is better to have no idea then to adhere to a false one?

:rolleyes:

Analogously, all
relatives of monkeys compose the monkey-kind with its own LUCA (which is the
very first pair of monkeys). There are no beings, who belong to both those
kinds.

And there are spider-kind with its own LUCA (the very first pair of spiders).
There are many LUCA-s in the "pseudo-" Science of Creation, compared to only
one LUCA in the Theory of Evolution.

And the "science" of creation is religion, while evolution is science.

When religion and science go head to head, religion never wins.

Look for example at your dog.
His kind is dog-kind because his LUCA (Universal LCA) was the dog.

Dogs evolved from wolves. Not that long ago, for that matter.

But he has a special breed "german shepherd", this breed is his specialty within his kind.
He is a special dog. Thus, his specie is his breed. Another specie is bulldog.

Human is a species of primate. And mammal. And tetrapod. And vertebrate. And eukaryote.

There are many species within each Biblical kind, for example, yellow-skin and
white-skin humans

Caucasian, asian,... are not species.

Please learn some basic biology. It will enable you to stop making such ludicrous statements.

. I am not a racist! Jesus Christ has died for all species of
humankind.

Homo Sapiens is one species.
Other human species existed, like Homo Neanderthalis. They are all extinct.

EVOLUTION-IDEOLOGY:

Not an ideology.

On the other hand, the Theory of Evolution (the founder is the christian
Charles Darwin) says that the lineage of the modern fish is originated from
your grandmother Diana. It is ridiculous in simple wording

Yes, arguing such obvious strawmen is very ridiculous.

Simple wording: "the modern fish is originated from your grandmother Diana."

Don't you mean "ridiculous ignorant intellectually dishonest strawman wording"?

Scientific wording: "All life on Earth shares a last universal common ancestor (LUCA)" Wikipedia.

Which is a genetic fact.

And from grandmother Zina - a line of spiders. From
grandmother Veronica - a line of monkeys.
But since they are very distant ancestors (and the very first grandmother was
the simplest unicellular bacterium: the Universal LCA), grandmother Diana was an ordinary fish,
and grandmother Zina is an ordinary spider. Veronica is a monkey in your genus.

The modern bacterium (named Tomy) was produced by his mother Huna, who was
also a bacterium. The bacterium-grandmother Vika has produced Huna, and so on.
All creatures in Tomy's lineage were bacteria.
Why the evolution into humans does take place with some
bacteria but not with the genus of Tomy? And you don't need to tell me the
parable, that "a factory worker can become a factory director, although other
workers are simply unlucky and they will remain unskilled forever." Nature and
biology are not a factory! And this also means that the Theory of Evolution
includes non-computable randomness. Therefore, it is possible that on the best
planet for living nothing special will happen, except the boring life of a
colony of bacteria.

The modern bacteria Tomy and LUCA look the same. Because the genus of Tomy was not evolution-ing. The explanation for this is the "factory" parable in the thread: namely genus of Tomy was not lucky enough. Thus, the modern fish are looking the same way as their ancestors the time the grandmother Diana (look up the name in the thread) has started their genus lines. Therefore, Diana was ordinary fish.

Do not deny your 10000000000 grandmothers' existence if you believe in them. Be respective to the original grandmother named LUCA. Do not call her the most primitive creature ever existed! Without her, there would be no grandmothers at all. Why? Because we need to feel our blood-relation to each other: we are someone's daughter, we are someone's son.


The C. Darwin has discovered not Evolution, but Adaptation. Surely, he would deserve the Nobel Prize for that. Namely, he rightly has seen the process of the appearance of new species. But within one kind. LUCA has produced this kind. The Creational Science however enlarges his Evolutionary theory in such a way, that introduces several LUCA-s, namely several kinds each with its own LUCA. The LUCA of the Bible is Adam and Eve. And each with its own species. For example, dog-kind. Within this dog-kind, there are many breeds. Each breed is a different specie inside this kind. The development of variants of SARS-CoV-2, or the way cancers become resistant to chemotherapy:
those examples are called Adaptation, which produces new species, but not new kinds.

So here's an honest question.

Are you capable of talking about biology without misrepresenting it and / or lying about it?
It looks like you aren't.
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
Have you presented your thesis to the board of science?

Can somebody work with me together to publish this paper? I have a low authority level, they do not trust me. Would somebody be the co-author of the paper? Are you interested in other results, for example, abc conjecture, Riemann Hypothesis, Dark Matter, Goldbach's conjecture? All problems are solved, but not published, the papers are only the viXra preprints.

Simple wording: "the modern fish is originated from your grandmother Diana."
Scientific wording: "All life on Earth shares a last universal common ancestor (LUCA)" Wikipedia.
Those two wordings are talking the same thing, just two different styles.
Quote: "Hey, my name is LUCA!"

The first is nonsense. The latter is a valid statement of science so far as the evidence indicates.

Those two wordings are talking the same thing, just two different styles.
Quote: "Hey, my name is LUCA!" (from the song).

not assuming that there is a God unless there is some kind of reason to do so

Dr. Dawkins has said: "I am atheist because there is no proof for God."
It makes zero sense! It is absurd. The less absurd is to say:
"I am atheist because I want to be atheist. The atheists are simply the coolest and richest humans on Earth! And it feels very good, that all proofs for God (made by theists) became debunked by atheists; however, theists insist on their validity."

There are, as you know, no authenticated examples of magic in reality.

Or do you think Adam and Eve were educated at Hogwarts?

Good people do miracles, bad people do magic.

Police execute the criminals, police never murders criminals.
But criminals murder people, and policemen.

Dogs evolved from wolves.

No, that is the hoax. Please see references to peer-review literature presented by Christian Martyr Kent Hovind in his YouTube lectures.

Are you capable of talking about biology without misrepresenting it and / or lying about it?
It looks like you aren't.

I am just one little YE Creationist. I just one of the most perfect ones.
 

MatthewA

Active Member
Oh I love you and hope you are having a good time.

I am tired and ready for sleep when landing home.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
No, that is the hoax.

Haha!

Please see references to peer-review literature presented by Christian Martyr Kent Hovind in his YouTube lectures.

Why would I turn to an exposed con-men who simply bought his "phd" and whose thesis starts with "hello my name is kent hovind", and who has exactly ZERO credentials in biology (or any science for that matter) and who's entire income is literally dependend on him preaching his religious mumbo-jumbo?

The equivalent of this isn't even asking your garagist, instead of a doctor, to diagnose a lump on your skin... the equivalent would be to ask a non-doctor who even only pretends to be a garagist.

I am just one little YE Creationist. I just one of the most perfect ones.

Is that an example of this "christian humility" I keep hearing about?

:rolleyes:
 

tas8831

Well-Known Member
CHROMOSOME DIFFERENCES BETWEEN CHIMPS AND HUMANS:

Theist and atheist disagreement about evolution is largely due to refusal of theists to learn science, which they perceive to be the enemy of religion.
Sort of.
However, despite the fact that there was a break in both lines, the junk DNA still retains the genetic relation.
Wait.. what does that mean?
Human's closest living relative is the bonobo chimp.
No, it is the LCA of bonobos and other chimps.
It is clear from the link (above) that there is a piece of chimp DNA that is a much closer match to human DNA where the two pairs of chromosomes merge.
Wow... OK, there is no such thing as "chimp DNA" and "Human DNA". There is just DNA. And if there is a sequence of DNA that humans and chimps have in common, it is due to common ancestry, not that humans 'have' chimp DNA.
Some animals with mismatching chromosomes are capable of breeding. For example, a horse has 64 chromosomes, and a donkey has 62, yet it is possible that a male donkey and a female horse can mate to produce a 63 chromosome mule.

I would guess that the term "same species" applies to animals that can mate to produce an offspring that could "almost always" also reproduce (which mules rarely can).

Thus, I would think that both Neanderthals and Denisovans are the same species as modern men.

All this begs the question, how did the first modern man reproduce? Was it a rare successful mating of a chimp and a human that produced a child? Or, were there two (or more) modern humans with Neanderthal or Denisovan parents?
Come on, dude....
 
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